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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:18 pm Reply with quote
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how many regions does TO have now?i know still have alot ££

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:28 pm Reply with quote
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Denmark is almost equal to TO, should match it or become more powerful in few rounds and everybody stands and watches free nations being raped by savages from Denmark !

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:39 pm Reply with quote
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ok just to keep you happy TO set to human.


the king of denmark welcomes new TO king to our halls anytime and asks you to consider helping us distroy novgorod

remember once gothic takes all mongols land,he will be just as powerfull as me....if not more



mongols set to AI,saspi,colin,ares take land before gothic...  Very Happy


lithuania up

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:09 am Reply with quote
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I thought Denmark wanted to destroy the TO and now they seek peace with them?
Lithuania wont be able to stop Novgorod if the TO is still alive.
They have always been an obstacle in the war against Novgorod and they still are, it doesnt matter who their king is. Also the only TO city close to Novgorod is under siege by me, so soon they wont be able to offer any help against Novgorod.

I am sure that if Denmark makes peace with the TO, Novgorod will capture all Mongolia. We wont be able to stop them from doing that. Please Denmark, help us destroy the TO that has obstructed the war against Novgorod.




Gothic, you have no moral ground at all.
When you first invaded Mongolia you tried to obtain peace only with Mongolia or only with Lithuania never with both of us. It was only when Denmark became your enemy and when you realized that to invade one of us you had to be in war with both of us, that you tried to obtain peace with both of us. But by that moment you had attacked already some Lithuania soldiers in both Novgorod territory and Mongol territory, you had insulted us, you had assasinated a merchant, you hadnt retreated from Mongolia either and you had conspired to break Mongolia alliance so you could invade one of us. So based on those events your offers of peace were and are still answered with KILL KILL KILL. But for the record, in the past we did offered you peace in exchange of the retreat of your invading army (nothing else), but let me repeat once again, you did all those atrocious things I have mentioned before that forced us to withdraw that offer.

Game is balanced. If it was unbalanced for  you, its because of your actions. But game is balanced righteoulsy.
So dont try to cover the truth. You only wanted peace when you were about to lose, but it was you who started the war by invading Mongolia and it was you who rejected the very first offer of peace.  Had Lithuania not declared war on you, you would have declared war on Mongolia. Had you wanted peace you would have accepted a peace that demanded nothing but retreating your army on Mongolia. If anyone made the game balance as it is today, thats you Gothic.






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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:09 am Reply with quote
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Novgorod hails the TO, please look herr meister we are not at war with you and in fact in friendy relationships.It's sneaky Denmark who invaded your land and steals your property.Novgorod offers help to push off Denmark from mainland and recover your land.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:09 pm Reply with quote
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Thanks for setting TO to human...benefits me in NO way. Whoever plays the TO will want to take back what was orig his.....




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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:34 pm Reply with quote
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cant please everyone...its all gothics moaning...lol

ares has a point..

how about this time vote and everyone must reply this time without holding up campain?



should TO be ai or human??all hs players must reply.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:18 pm Reply with quote
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I personally dont think its a good idea to drop someone in mid game especially if its the main faction in question, the dynamics of the game would change completely. Factions who were fighting the TO could and would prob ally ... that would just turn the game on its head.

In hindsight it maybe best in the next hotseat to have the most powerful faction, ie TO be controlled by a human player. I know this was put forward before we started and even I wanted TO set to AI, but I think with an intelligent player controlling the TO it would have made for a far more intresting game as the TO in this hotseat seem to have rolled over and died.



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:12 pm Reply with quote
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If the TO is completely dead on Poland side I vote that a human can take over the TO because I really dont mind fighting the TO on my side as human.

However if there is any chance that TO might recover the lost territory on Poland side I vote against a human taking control of the TO.

EDIT: If a human takes over the TO, Lithuania will have a more difficult game but we dont mind unless someone else minds, in this case Poland so my vote I guess is a no.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:53 pm Reply with quote
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I will post my sav tomorrow hang on.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:50 pm Reply with quote
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is that a no?

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:14 am Reply with quote
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I wont stand in the way if the rest of you want TO as human ...... had my moaning head on yesterday. If the TO are to be human so be it!!



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:57 am Reply with quote
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then I change my vote to yes


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:03 pm Reply with quote
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TO is too weak to do anything, so Colin can take them over if he wants.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:56 pm Reply with quote
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TO is going to loose Duraburg to Lithuania next round which is going to be major blow, he is also attacked on the north by Denmark and lost 2 important settlements to Denmark already.HRE is allied with Denmark, Poland is not friendly either so basically TO is surrounded by enemies.

If we don't have TO as human to support us against Denmark, game is lost in Denmark favour already as is going to be superior in few rounds and HRE decided to do nothing.Novgorod can't stand against Denmark so does any other nation because Danish snatched best settlements.

Peace offer Denmark declared is of course bullocks and I hope TO meister is not that stupid to have peace with his  enemy. Denmark must be pushed off the mainland if we want play for some longer.

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