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#1: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed May 23, 2012 11:39 pm
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Some of you had to install/patch the game,please download the file attached and try load it asap to make sure you have correct version runing.

All players must reply before doing there first turn and say they have read rules,to avoid any problems later in campain.

RULES

must not

- Assassinate family members (generals or princesses)
- Attack ships in port
- Leave a port whilst it is blockaded without fighting the blockading fleet
- No merchant stacks
- No cheating of any kind,play with honour!
- Do anything else that has been accepted as an unfair exploit (if in doubt, please ask first.dont say later "i didnt know")

when you finish your turn uoload it into the thread provided and PM the next player.save files must be named correct i.e THS-Turn number-Faction .

save files must be uploaded within 24hrs of the previous uploaded save.
players may ask for an additional 12hrs to play their turn (total of 36hrs).
upon going over the maximum number of 24 (or the later 36h) the turn
will be subbed by an ally, admin or neutral player.

all battles to be autoresolved.before and after screenshots of all battles must be posted.

armies or fleets may not be attacked 2 turns in a row. (a defeated
army/fleet must be given one turn grace from attacks so that It may move
in the next) if a defeated army moves into a settlement or fort, that
settlement may be sieged or captured in the same turn.

only military and religious buildings may be destroyed, and no destroying buildings when a settlement is under siege

Factions
Teutonic Order- Colin
Kingdom of Denmark- Soulfly
Grand Duchy of Lithuania- Saspi
Novgorod Republic - Gothic
Holy Roman Empire - Ranger
Kingdom of Poland - Ares
Kingdom of Norway - AI
Mongol Empire - Death MerchantLast edited by Soulfly on Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:05 pm; edited 13 times in total

#2: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 12:09 pm
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Ok hotseat is now live,please read over the first post.Good luck

I have read and understand the rules

#3: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 4:41 pm
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I have read and understand the rules. Dont got time but I did my turn and sent file to gothic.
Hmmm weird I couldnt upload it... says sav extension isnt allowed

#4: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:34 pm
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Where did you send it actually ??? My mailboxes including CA msg box are empty ... Sad

(((((((((((( Next time upload to some online service like Google drive or DropBox whatever ...

well I have no any file.

#5: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 9:41 pm
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— Saspi wrote
I have read and understand the rules. Dont got time but I did my turn and sent file to gothic.
Hmmm weird I couldnt upload it... says sav extension isnt allowed

saspi you need to compress the save file first with win rar or win zip then attach,please do thsi asap.you read and understand the rules?? >> when you upload the file you must also pm the memmber letting them know its sent(members should edit there forum settings so they get a email when pm'ed).thanks

gothic : i rather the file was uploaded to the CA site,

#6: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 2:30 pm
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still no file .... SASPI !

#7: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 10:35 pm
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Sorry, didnt had enough time to figure out how to upload it. I was getting late for my 1 day trip.
Doesnt seem like the subbed file has been downloaded, so heres mine if theres no problem:

#8: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon May 28, 2012 9:52 pm
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saspi did you pm gothic ?

#9: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:13 am
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here it is Smile

#10: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:02 pm
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gothic you read rules right?

#11: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 3:54 am
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Here's denmark's turn up next

also I have read the rules

#12: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 7:55 pm
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Poland up next

#13: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed May 30, 2012 10:11 pm
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Mongols are up...Let me know if theres any trouble with the file..

I have read the rules Surprised

#14: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:06 am
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Mongols subed,lithuania up

#15: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:38 am
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yeah yeah i understood rules, this hotseat plays with speed of light, great !!! Smile

)))))

BTW guys you can post in game messages to other players - in factions settings popup by clicking on faction logo

I encourage you to post ingame messages and screenshots on forum and do some little role-playing to have fun and spicy up this hotseat !!!!

#16: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:42 am
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Your turn Gothic.
Looks like im the Tortoise here. My dam internet company really sucks, I`ve been 3 days without internet and telephone, hopefully itll be fixed soon.
Anyway,

The Grand Duke of Lithuania, Mindaugas, publicly announces his intention to destroy the Teutonic Order.
Anyone at war with the Teutonic Order is invited to join the Coalition "Free Nations" to coordinate efforts against the Teutons.

Current Free Nations members: (Lithuania)

#17: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:14 am
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Novgorod fullly supports their heroic fight with Teutonic Order. We hope these bastards get destroyed soon.

#18: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:21 pm
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— Saspi wrote
Your turn Gothic.
Looks like im the Tortoise here. My dam internet company really sucks, I`ve been 3 days without internet and telephone, hopefully itll be fixed soon.
Anyway,

The Grand Duke of Lithuania, Mindaugas, publicly announces his intention to destroy the Teutonic Order.
Anyone at war with the Teutonic Order is invited to join the Coalition "Free Nations" to coordinate efforts against the Teutons.

Current Free Nations members: (Lithuania)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iByXvw0WyKo&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

#19: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:45 am
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HRE has been subbed,in the fairness of the game i think we need a neutral player thats not in the campain to sub players..I am the admin,while subing ranger i found a message leaves me to believe novgorod wants me dead after agreeing peace witht me lol...So ill ask colin to sub players when possible,ill only do it if theres no one else about and really needed...lesson to be learnt here is do your turn and avoid getting subed or do your diplomacy over xfire/steam etcLast edited by Soulfly on Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:33 pm; edited 1 time in total

#20: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 12:18 pm
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Poland up,ive let ares know on steam

HRE screenies and Denmark

#21: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:36 pm
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#22: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:58 pm
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_SypEMxOSI&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

#23: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:12 pm
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— Soulfly wrote
HRE has been subbed,in the fairness of the game i think we need a neutral player thats not in the campain to sub players..I am the admin,while subing ranger i found a message leaves me to believe novgorod wants me dead after agreeing peace witht me lol...So ill ask colin to sub players when possible,ill only do it if theres no one else about and really needed...lesson to be learnt here is do your turn and avoid getting subed or do your diplomacy over xfire/steam etc

NOOOOOOOOOOO it was not suppose to be like this Sad

[b] it was confidential message which was part of gameplay Mad

it really screwed gameplay now,really .... GRRRRRRR

You as admin got advantage by subbing - you can peak into other part of the map and read in game so indeed we need admin.

Sorry about that Soufly it was not against you, just part of a game.If you want to be fair you will stick to our deal as we agreed despite reading this msg.I dont want you dead - just wanted to warn my friends you will probably give them some 'attention' soon, it is all to keep game balanced because if you acquire Norway you are going to be a monster while we fight with TO.

#24: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:30 pm
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well to be fair,ive allied with hre so i probaly would have found out..deal is off...

#25: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:37 pm
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Lol, we could see this as if the message was intercepted by sheer chance by the danes.
Must have happened in real life more than once.

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The Grand Duke of Lithuania, Mindaugas, declares the Free Nations Coalition against the Teutonic Order has grown to be 2 members strong now.

The Grand duke also declares that the Polish successes have not been ignored within the Coalition. The recent defeat of the Teuton armies by the Polish Army has made Poland a serious candidate to recieve the next invitation to join the Coalition. However it has not been formally discussed. Perhaps a show of interest from Poland could start the discussion.
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News have spread of a failed Teuton invasion in Lithuania. Details of the men killed in battle have been kept hidden from the public, however the following information has been published:

#26: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:44 am
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— Soulfly wrote
.deal is off...

You agreed to terms and now after getting intel in unfair way you refuse.... Well, what can I say...Honor and glory are not words common to you.I don't believe HRE would share this information with you, German Keiser is honorable man, besides, there was nothing in this intel against just a word of warning that's it and yet you use it as pretext to cancel deal you already agreed - when I already moved my troops away because I believed in your word.

#27: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:49 am
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saspi your to post screen shots before and after like myself and ares,please do that next time

#28: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:50 am
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— Gothic wrote
— Soulfly wrote
.deal is off...

You agreed to terms and now after getting intel in unfair way you refuse.... Well, what can I say...Honor and glory are not words common to you.I don't believe HRE would share this information with you, German Keiser is honorable man, besides, there was nothing in this intel against just a word of warning that's it and yet you use it as pretext to cancel deal you already agreed - when I already moved my troops away because I believed in your word.

i still have no interest in attacking you,if you dont attack me ill not attack you,you can still deal with TO.

i wont agree to the deal if you send diplomat heres why: you contacted me at first as said ill give you coins for land if you dont accept ill take them..so to avoid war i said i would accept if you agree to peace,then you sent that message to hre.Last edited by Soulfly on Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:05 pm; edited 2 times in total

#29: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:18 am
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— Soulfly wrote
saspi your to post screen shots before and after like myself and ares,please do that next time

I would have but I didnt took the after ss by accident.
By the way, is it optional to take ss of all battle or is everyone obliged to do it?

#30: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:34 am
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DON'T TRUST THE BACKSTABBING SCOTCH MAN!!!!!!!!

#31: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:52 pm
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— Saspi wrote
— Soulfly wrote
saspi your to post screen shots before and after like myself and ares,please do that next time

I would have but I didnt took the after ss by accident.
By the way, is it optional to take ss of all battle or is everyone obliged to do it?

saspi you said you read the rules,the whole point getting everyone to read before starting was to avoid mix ups later..you must take them before and after every battle

colin that happened in the first campain,i learnt from mistake and havnt in any other campain in CA or twc..CUNT Very Happy

#32: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 1:31 pm
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Lithuania Up

#33: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:23 pm
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I'll attach the proper turn this time

#34: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:09 pm
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Lithuania is at war with Novgorod, Prince Vaisvilkas has invaded them after an army from Novgorod was found inside the territory of Lithuania`s allies , the mongols.
No hostile actions have been taken, but there will be if novgorod doesnt retreat.

Current Free Nations members: (Lithuania Mongolia and Poland)

#35: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 5:55 pm
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It was self defence, Mongols aproached our borders, we shall retreat if they will retreat from our borders.

#36: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 9:53 pm
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Will Novgorod really do that? Because thats not what you said to me in your private message...

Let all Nations know Novgorod invaded Mongolia with no other motive than pure greed.
The Great Duchy of Lithuania has decided not to rest until Novgorod is dead.
Your private message, russian, has destroyed any possibility of peace talks.
Time to die.

#37: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:38 pm
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— Saspi wrote

Your private message, russian, has destroyed any possibility of peace talks.
Time to die.

cant beat hotseat campains Very Happy

#38: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:55 am
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— Saspi wrote
Will Novgorod really do that? Because thats not what you said to me in your private message...

Let all Nations know Novgorod invaded Mongolia with no other motive than pure greed.
The Great Duchy of Lithuania has decided not to rest until Novgorod is dead.
Your private message, russian, has destroyed any possibility of peace talks.
Time to die.

LOL you are funny Razz

- dear King of Lithuania aka Saspi the Mongolian cannon-fodder Very Happy

war with Novgorod benefits only Mongols, and you are used as a tool against Novgorod who offered you friendship and support.

1) You and Mongols didn't announce any alliance
2) Suddenly you attack backstab me by surprise attack despite my will to help you out with TO.
3) You didn't warn me or try any diplomatic pressure just breached my territory and hide some pathethic troops next to my major cities -because you had some deal with Mongols nobody knew about.

I don't mind going down from this hotseat because I see really no place here for any reasonable aka 'strategic' plans from your side. You will bleed my friend and our lands will be taken by our enemies, they laugh now off your illogical decisions.

Go ahead, move your troops to east, bleed and die, and let AI burn your ass Very Happy

#39: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:39 pm
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1) I Told you Alliance was to be announced this turn, and I had told you on previous message I had an ally. Who else that ally could have been but the mongols? For me it was either having mongols as allies or you both teaming up against me.
2) I didnt backstab you, for we were never allies. And I didnt even attacked you, I just used my army as a tough diplomatic-coercive measure. You replied to my offers of peace by attacking my army and then asked me to let mongols die when they are my allies. If I had let mongols die, that would have been the real backstabbing.
3) Just for the record I accidentally declared war on you because my dummy scout attacked your hidden army.

Teutons are no threat to the Great Duchy of Lithuania.

#40: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:07 pm
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Novgorod was not and is not in war with Mongols - we never did declare war or attack Mongols, we are still in peace with them.

You declared war against us and breached into our territory under false pretext but when your turn comes please check factions graph and you shall see Novgorod and Mongols are not at war. Not a single mongolian soldier, man, woman or a child died under Novgorod sword and yet you invaded Novgorod and hid your armies everywhere.

Novgorod had to defend from this agression. Let this be a lesson king of Lithuania is nothing more than a Mongolian dog who does what his master told you. We didn't not attack Lithuania or even threaten to attack and yet and attacks us. If you want respect try to make your own decisions and not follow what your master told you to do.Sorry but it looks you got manipulated by Mongols into 'war' that never happened.He is using you as cannon fodder and you follow Very Happy

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#41: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:19 pm
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gothic you must show army numbers mate,why hide them?you know that isnt acceptable.next screenies must show all army numbers

good posts guys,the campain is taking off lol.only turn 3,didnt expect this so early

#42: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:41 pm
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— Saspi wrote

Teutons are no threat to the Great Duchy of Lithuania.

LOL, I suggest you play as Lithuania as single player, hell they are, I really don't even have to fight your silly invasion of Novgorod but sit back and wait for TO to smack you down and it will happen SOON, TO is already mass recruting his elite spearmen in Duraburg and you instead of taking Duraburg invade Russia because Mongols told you so LMAO Very Happy

Mongols are not going to help you out, they are far far away from TO and they troops are pathetic.Alliance with Russia could really help you out as I can attack TO from north and east. I never planed any alliance with Mongols against Lithuania and I told you many times Novgorod is not going to attack you and yet you do attacked us.

Mongols are now lauging his ass off you being naive as a child.

#43: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:28 pm
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[quote="Gothic";p="9036"]

— Saspi wrote
Mongols are not going to help you out, they are far far away from TO and they troops are pathetic.

You might be made to eat your words as early as next turn

I hope you are well prepared for war Gothic, i hoped we could prosper, but made preparations for your likely hostile acts.

Our arrows will blot out the sun! Your men will be placed on pikes as far as the eye can see!

#44: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:59 pm
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[quote="Death_Merchant";p="9038"]

— Gothic wrote
— Saspi wrote
Mongols are not going to help you out, they are far far away from TO and they troops are pathetic.

You might be made to eat your words as early as next turn

Novgorod is not at war with Mongols, we didn't attack your or not intend and YET .... you are going to attack. Your real face has been revealed - it's face of agressor and invader, let Saint Mary protect our land from thieves and rapists.

Mongols are nothing more than bunch of cowards - we never attacked them and yet they gang on Novgorod will his little dog Lithuania.Fight like a man 1 vs 1 and we shall show you who is real men and not use Lithuania to do your dirty job.

#45: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:47 pm
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Denmark is up. The German Emperor and the mighty Danish King have agreed to an alliance so that our economies may prosper, and so that the Holy Roman Empire can focus on ridding the earth of the Teutonic Order, not only from the map but from memory as well!

#46: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:43 pm
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— Gothic wrote

Novgorod is not at war with Mongols, we didn't attack your or not intend and YET .... you are going to attack. Your real face has been revealed - it's face of agressor and invader, let Saint Mary protect our land from thieves and rapists.

Mongols are nothing more than bunch of cowards - we never attacked them and yet they gang on Novgorod will his little dog Lithuania.Fight like a man 1 vs 1 and we shall show you who is real men and not use Lithuania to do your dirty job.

A 3 star Novgorodian general with a 757 men army including 150 spear mercenaries trying to HIDE IN MONGOLIAN TERRITORY. How are we to bloody interpret that? Why recruit expensive mercenaries if you didnt intended to attack Mongolia? Why did you attack Lithuanian armies when only thing those armies did was exactly what you did to the Mongols, but instead of 757 men we sent smaller armies? Furthermore, if you actually didnt want to attack mongolia why didnt you accepted my proposal of retreating from Mongolian territory in exchange of peace? You even asked me, exceeding by the way your cynism, to abandon the mongols. And still you werent going to invade them? One does not simply take 757 soldiers into anothers nation territory and expect to actually make them believe they are only there to visit the local pub.

And regarding your dog comments.
A nation who believes that helping your very own ally (upon him being invaded) is
equal to a dog obeying his master, will never deserve to be an ally of Lithuania.
Both Mongolia and Lithuania see each other as equals.
By thinking that Mongolia can only possibly be treating us as their obedient dogs, rather
than as their trustworthy allies, you are only reflecting your own beliefs.

We are glad our allies are the Sovereign Nation of Mongolia and not Novgorod, the overbearing nation that
cant understand the meaning of equality, friendship and sovereignty and most likely sees everyone but themselves as dogs.

And regarding the TO, both Poland and HRE have stated they are destroying the Teutons so Lithuania has plenty of help. And not only that, we have already expelled 2 evil Teutons armies from Lithuania summing at least 1000 foolish inaders defeated. Unfortunately we have no SS of this but you may be sure the Teutons are far from representing a real danger to Lithuania.

You are alone, unless of course you ally with the TO which you, by the way, claimed to have a desire of destroying them. Such dishonourable tactics are only for Nations like yours. Stop trying to disguise the truth, you are the one in the desperate situation not us.

#47: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:05 pm
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[quote="Gothic";p="9040"][quote="Death_Merchant";p="9038"]

— Gothic wrote
— Saspi wrote
Mongols are not going to help you out, they are far far away from TO and they troops are pathetic.

You might be made to eat your words as early as next turn

You invaded my lands with a large army, without ever making contact for free passage, thats a declaration of war as far as im concerned.

You would only stab us in the back later in the game if we had peace now, so forget your 'peace' treaty

#48: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:29 pm
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Poland up!

The king of Denamrk is honoured the Kaiser has accepted the alliance.The Kaisers friends are our friends and your enemies are our enemies.A gift from Denmark brother,woman from every corner of the world..

"Soulfly, King of Denmark raises a goblet of ale"

#49: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:06 am
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Wow so much emotions Very Happy

this hotseat is going to rock, but we need to fix something :

1)

I claim Denmark got unfair advantage in the game and demand fixing this in acceptable way for Novgorod or set me to AI as game is unaplayable for me now

1) Novgorod starts with huge army in
Novgorod city
2) Denmark starts with tiny army in the castle nearby

Denmark has no chance to keep north , Narva , Reval must fall because of numeric advantage russian army.So Denmark must lose territory by two ways :

1) Invasions of russian troops
2) honorable agreement

I wanted to be fair and not attack anybody without warning, so I offered Denmark deal to buy Neval and Nerva for 2500 - as he couldnt keep it anyway.Denmark agreed

Based on our agreement I sent my army away from Novgorod, towards TO as I promised Lithuania to support him.I expected Denmark to fight with HRE as they seem natural enemy so I sent PM to HRE just warning him Denmark sold me north and he may focus on him soon so he should be ready.I asked him in PM to keep this msg confidential as I wanted to have good relations with Denmark.

Denmark read msg and cancel deals, or claims he would find out anyway because HRE is his ally.
Denmark didn't announce HRE is his ally, I would never sent this PM to HRE if I knew they are allied so reason for canceling agreement is invalid but it's not really a problem.

I claim Denmark got serious advantage and Novgorod serious disadvantage.Based on agreement I moved my troops away, in the meantime Denmark recruited whole army in castle which would never happen in natural flow of the game.
By misleading Novgorod Denmark has a chance to keep north as he managed to recruit army and I was not able to capture Reval and Narva.In the current attack of Mongols and Lithuania game is unplayable for Novgorod because he must capture Danish castle with heavy casualties or keep one army on the north to protect Novgorod.

It would never happen in normal game or if Denmark honor agreement.It just can't be like that because you can say faction you will his ally and next round when he moves troops you attack.I don't care about that PM because it was just roleplaying, Denmark by canceling deal is having advantage and PM are not reason to cancel deal you did agree - especially when other player based on agreement moved his troops and you recruited new ones.

I demand Denmark to sell me north for 7000 coins 700 per 10 rounds [color=red]which you also did agree again Very Happy

and pull back his army from north to fix balance or find other acceptable solution for Novgorod[/color]

2)

I admit I had my army in Mongol territory but it's not reason for war.

1) Mongols and Lithuania didn't annouce any alliance
2) Mongols troops were not attacked nor mongols cities
3) Lithuania was attacked because he attacked me, declared war on me and the worst breached into my territory and hide his troops everywhere
4) Mongols were not attacked though I could capture Mglin

It got me pissed because Lithuania just before asked for my help and I sent my troops to support him, I had my armies near Duraburg and have screens to prove it. Next round he attacks me because he had some secret alliance with Mongols nobody knew about - I still consider this as backstabing Saspi.You could warn me or use other way, Novgorod is not push over and it's not going to listen to your demands from position of force.

#50: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:49 am
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for those in game that dont know whats happened.

soulfly

aw fuck,right next to denmark...should i be worried?

gothic

oh, no ... do I have so bad reputation ? Smile)))

In fact I offer you peace and friendship.You can't keep north and you know it Smile but instead of sword and violence I offer you coins for Danish northern territory Smile how about that ?

soulfly

lol hoe much,would need to be a good amount..i knew you would attack

gothic

well, I don't plan to attack you ... but Russia starts with >huge< army in the north and I must make some use of it ... I prefer though not behave like a savage and offer civilized terms for your withdrawl - peace and trade rights and coins for land in the north. It's very beneficial for you because you are unable to keep the north anyway ,I can take it with force , so you may sell it to me and use coins to take care of closer areas Smile If we stay friends you may focus on the on Norway and HRE, instead of fighting hopeless war with Novgorod.

soulfly

lets not beat about the bush lol,huch much coins?

gothic

2500 coins,trade rights,eternal friendship,unlimited vodka and russian girls supply - my friend that's an offer you can not refuse Smile

soulfly

the king of denmark would like to remind you that denamrk is no push over, novgorod do have a large army in the north but have still to deal with teutonic order,lithuania and also the mongols.

however your offer is very interesting,maybe we can agree on this after all.however..i would like to add the following conditions:

denamrk will give you the two regions you want for 2500 upfront,the king of denmark would also like your word if his mighty faction capture abo you will show no interest in it.

denmark have other interests at moment and dont want war with you,but i know your a sneaky fucker lol..

gothic

Our mighty Tsar sealed the deal, so it is 2500 in gold, vodka and the girls for northern regions which will come back to mother Russia.We admire wisdom of your king who decided to deal this problem in civilized way :)

We are not interested in any war with Denmark, let our friendship flourish then Smile and let our enemies die in suffering Smile

soulfly

aye sounds good,send a diplomat my way

as you can see from the pm's above i had agreed a deal with gothic before campain really got going,i think it was on turn 1 or before.i wanted to avoid war at the start to build so was going to agree if it would avoid war,i could then use those units in town and catsle to capture rebal land north.

i had already argeed a deal with ranger but diplomats were to far away,as admin i then had to sub ranger on turn 2 and then i seen the message from gothic :

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even if i hadnt subed ranger,he would have told me about the message anyway.

gothics message to ranger is sneaky and clever,you can see from pm's to me and ranger what he was trying to do...it could have worked well,but it backfired this time.

after seeing that message why should i sell those regions???

gothic its no ones fault but your own,it may have worked in another game buy backfired this time,and with your advance on mongols you have fucked up at this point in the campain,its upto you to change that in game somehow,not come on the forums and be a bad looser,you done the same thing in last campain.

if your saying i must sell you those regions or you will quit then im my own optinion as a player in game not admin you should stop the bad looser crap and play or or quit and we will try find another player to replace you.you are a good addition to the campain,and am sure we all would prefer you continue to play on no matter what happens.fight and die with honour..if you made some mistakes learn from them.

however,as admin/host ill let all the members in campain decide if gothic should get those regions after all,please read over my post,ive added the pms and message to try be fair and let you all see,so you can vote in fairness of game.

so please copy and paste the list below and add your vote to it.

in my option me and gothic shouldnt vote,but if yous think otherwise please say.

1.ranger
2.saspi
3.ares
4.death

#51: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:28 am
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I'm not bad looser - it's who doesn't honor deals Mad

- it's usuallly not a problem but this time it affects gameplay.

Novgorod starts with huge army in the north and reason for this is to secure northern flank and I did secure it but by diplomacy as we did agreed.You could rejected my deal straight away and I would capture these regions by attack - but we had deal you are selling it to me and my diplomat offered you deal which you were suppose to accept and I moved my troops away I was sure northern flank is secure, otherwise my army would capture it shortly.

We had agreement - based on that I made decisions - moved troops away from north because it was already secure.

You got advantage because you keep north now and me in check which was not suppose to happen in any case.And please don't get started about this PM ... it's not reason to cancel deals you already agreed because I made already my movements.

Denmark can't keep north simple as that - you knew it and that's why you did agree to sell it, but then when I already moved troops away, you cancel agreement and recruit troops which keep me in check because I can't move my troops south.This is not fair IMO.

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#52: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:58 am
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maybe you shouldnt have messaged ranger,maybe you shouldnt have moved a big army to mongols..

no point me repeating myself,its all in the post i made above..lets put it to the vote...am sure if its as unfair as you say the others will vote i should sell you the land.if they do no problem

#53: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:19 pm
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You agreed to sell because you had no chance to keep it anyway as I would attack instantly, now after I moved my troops and you recruited whole army there you change your mind.

You got unfair advantage simple as that.

1) PM was for Ranger not for you
2) You didn't annouce alliance with Ranger
3) There was nothing in PM to cancel deal - just a warning that's

4) Most important - you change decisions which already has been made - when other player made his move already.

You use this PM as pretext to not to honor your agreements - it screws up gameplay as Denmark is not suppose to be on north.It makes Novgorod impossible to have proper war with Mongol-Lithuan alliance.

#54: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:38 pm
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PM was for Ranger not for you

1.ranger has already said he would have told me so it would have made no difference,so i wouldnt have known about your sneaky message.if you never sent it then this wouldnt be happening..instead of pm in game use xfire.steam,teamspeak,forums pm...your tactics backfired.

2) You didn't annouce alliance with Ranger

2.i didnt announce in forum about sellin you land yet you still go on about it..

3) There was nothing in PM to cancel deal - just a warning that's

3.to me that message shows your pms to me were crap,you were shit stiring hoping hre might decide on attacking me sometime,even though in one of your pms above you tell me to attack norway then hre lol..you were trying to cause war between us...backfired

4) Most important - you change decisions which already has been made - when other player made his move already.

4. i changed my mind before the deal could be done in game because your sneaky tactics,you trying to start wars between me and other faction...your tactics and mistakes caused this..you have shown no honour,going behind denmarks back to try start wars to benifit you,move armys into mongols land trying to hide, YOU TRY PREACH TO THE KING ABOUT HONOUR,FOOL!

i didnt recruit units in those regions untill turn 3!

stoping moaning about it,let the members vote...

#55: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:24 pm
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There is nothing to vote as fact you got unfair advantage is obvious, and LOL, sorry but I don't expect Saspi and DM to vote against their interests.

This is first hotseat -ever- Denmark keeps north and it keeps it because it misleaded other players.PM has nothing to do with it - as the deal was sealed already,and my troops were moved.

Let's come back to round 1 and let's check if you can keep north.Oh no, - you can't, and everybody knows about it that's why you sold it to me.Don't talk me about honor - if you can't honor your own words.

#56: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:36 pm
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we are repeating ourselves here let the 4 others vote,if its even then we will get a neutral member to help decide...if your not happy with a vote,i cant see any other way....but if your confident it was unfair on you...the other players are good honest people..if it was unfair am sure they will vote with honest opinion in fairness of game.

#57: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:51 pm
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If I may offer an outside opinion into this. First of all you can't complain about people have secret alliances, you are dealing with real people here not some AI that will announce when they are allied with someone. This happens in real life, eg the "Triple Alliance" in the 1870's, so quite frankly I think you've no grounds for complaint over this at all.

However after saying that it is indeed possible that HRE would not have shown that message to Soulfly due to having their own plans, in future a player who is not taking part in the campaign should play for subbed members.

#58: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:26 pm
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#59: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:25 pm
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All is fair in war. You made the decision to not take Soulfly's regions using your army, regardless of any agreements made. It is your own fault that you did not take them. Even if there was an agreement, people break agreements all the time, so it is your fault that you trusted the agreement. Soulfly should keep his regions simply because he has no reason to give them up since it is your own fault that you did not take them.

#60: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:35 pm
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That bullshit Ranger, this way you can promise somebody alliance and when he moves troops attack him.His fault he trusted your words.Rubbish and makes any diplomacy impossible, some basic rules must follow.

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I have been a lot badmouthed by Lithuania but I post here prove it's Lithuania who backstabed Novgorod

1) Lithuania asks for help

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2) Novgorod agrees and sends his armies to help Lithuania

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3) In response to our help Lithuania invades Novgorod, (there is also more troops hidden in the bushes near Vitebsk)

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#61: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:35 pm
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Germany agreed to an alliance with Russia, but ended up invading Russia in 1941 during World War 2. It happens in real life as well, so suck it up Razz

#62: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:57 pm
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My opinion is that backstabbing, lies should be allowed, simply because thats part of what makes the hotseat fun and unpredictable, the way i see it is that Soulfly was going to give those regions then you decided to fight a war in the south, which makes his position more secure meaning he doesn't have to give those regions after all.

People who backstab quickly build up a reputation, so therefore they are unlikely to be trusted later in the game. Being honest has its own rewards, but also is a disadvantage for the more sneaky players.

Its not like medieval rulers were at all honest, quite the contrary in-fact.

RE: Gothic, the game isnt fair in the first place, its not like i ever had an equal footing with the larger factions, the way i see it you make the best of what you've got, not come complaining saying denmark has an advantage. Factions will always have advantages over others, its up to your skill, tactical nous and luck to win the game. Any one player is unlikely to win the game, the best they can hope for is a decent ally and a bit of luck, then maybe you have a chance.

All hope is not lost, even if down to only 1 region, so please for the sake of the other players don't quit.
There was a campaign on TWC where france was down to one region (Milan) and they ended up winning the game in the end, you never know what might happen.

#63: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:04 pm
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No mate, I dont have to.

I felt sorry about Lithuania because he was getting beaten by TO and I offered help, I got knife in my back in return.I expected Denmark to honor their word I got knife in my back - not cool.I expect some basic social norms to be preserved when I play hotseat.

DeathMerchant, you disappoint me man Very Happy

I just approached with my army and run away like scared chicken and throw Lithuania on me LOL. You got some nice army there, even if I captured Mglin I would have to back off because you have superior troops there, you could easily take it back and get some coins and settlements for peace, we could have some fun and fair fight - instead you gang on me with Lithuania LMAO Very Happy

and when I ask you nicely for peace and offer coins you tell me to buzz off LOL Very Happy

Easy to be bad boy when there is 3vs1.

#64: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:07 pm
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— Gothic wrote
Easy to be bad boy when there is 3vs1.

Easy to walk a full stack into my territory when you are the bigger faction Smile

#65: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:40 pm
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#66: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:42 pm
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Lithuania up

#67: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:55 pm
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Tsar of Novgorod decided to ask Lithuania-Mongolia for peace, despite recent hostilities we believe there is still reason not to kill each other to joy of our enemies ... We will pay 100 coins to Mongolia for moral damages as none of their troops have been attacked or settlements sacked, soldiers responsible for crossing border has been executed, and 300 coins to Lithuania for damages.This is what our economy currently allows.Trade rights will be given which will offer great boost to your economies.

We are also interested to join Lithuanian-Mongolian alliance as we think we may share some common values ...

Tsar is very sorry for what happen and we can asure you we will respect your borders, as we will back off all military troops from nearby area.Last edited by Gothic on Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:45 pm; edited 1 time in total

#68: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:14 pm
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#69: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:54 pm
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Hey there Gothic, just read your proposal and this message has nothing to do with it so dont get upset since Ill reply to your offer privately... Cool

I can understand you think I backstabbed you.
Heres the deal.

Turn 1
Novgorod were the first ones to approach me. Gothic wanted a village for gold. I offered the village either for 2x the gold Gothic offered or by telling Gothic to attack some Teuton cities. I even spoke about a military alliance:

This military alliance, the Grand Duke thinks, would indeed turn us into the biggest military strengths and would allow us to exterminate any warmongering faction. Thus, our citizen will live in peace.

Turn2
Novgorod makes turn and posts on the hotseat thread after I publicly announced my intention to destroy the TO the following:

Novgorod fullly supports their heroic fight with Teutonic Order. We hope these bastards get destroyed soon.

Then, first Private message I get from Gothic, after offering the deal, is this:

hey saspi maybe you will change faction to Norway ? I think you would have better chances, Lithuania is weak and Order even on AI is going to wipe it out.Norway is much more fun to play.

I respond with this:

I dont understand this message gothic. Is it an old message before the hotseat started? I cant change faction, the hotseat already started.
I know the Teutonic Order is strong but if we unite we can beat them, in fact I already killed a major teutonic army that wanted to invade me.

and this:

Forgot to ask if you want to join the Free Nations coalition?

Ok, so far it is clear im trying to make an alliance with Gothic.
Gothic publicly said he supported me but privately he sent me a message telling me to change faction.
Note that I still have no response on the deal offered but rather a strange reply, which makes me paranoid on a mongol-novgorod alliance invasion.
I need novgorod attacking TO already to discard such an alliance.

I cant risk myself on waiting, so I go test the waters with Death and end up making a military alliance with Mongols. This alliance took me much much less time to agree for some reason than it is taking me with Gothic.
I plan to announce Mongolia-Lithuania alliance next turn.
Also at this point, Ive been told gothic can be sneaky sometimes. So I begin to think he is plotting something against me since, to me, it seems he is trying to delay the negotiations for some reason. I hear as well that Soul is sneaky.

Then the conflict between Novgorod and Denmark is announced and Novgorod PM me with a counteroffer:

ok, lets kill TO, I want to let you know you are safe on your back from east Novgorod is not going to backstab you,I will help you destroy TO but Novgorod expects loyality and friendship in return.

He finally wants an alliance. But I already have an alliance.
I dont reply to him yet and post on hotseat thread this:

The Grand Duke of Lithuania, Mindaugas, declares the Free Nations Coalition against the Teutonic Order has grown to be 2 members strong now.

Right now, that second member is obviously Mongolia. However I cant remember if the alliance was made before mongolia was delivered his turn (when novgorod invaded) or after. Only Death Merchant may know this. I think it was before anyway.

At this point Im troubled whether to accept Novgorod offer since I already have an ally, and since I think Novgorod plots against me. But then Novgorod sends this:

I will not be able to help you mate,sorry, war with Denmark awaits.It was not supposed to be like that but it happened (not my fault though)

So cleary right now we have no offers going anymore nor any agreement with Novgorod. Gothic is not gonna help me anymore with TO, so in accordance to all this, im not obliged to tell Gothic we are not friends anymore since we have no diplomacy going anymore. But still I tell Gothic the following to know im starting to be upset and suspicous about him:

Your messages have confused me all along.

I really feel bad that Denmark is going in war against you and probably HRE as well from what Ive read. I dont know whats really is going behind the curtains but I have the feeling that you didnt wanted a war with Denmark.

But also I have started to suspect that there will not be a real war between you and Denmark but rather a fake war.
A fake war that will give you an excuse from helping me destroy the TO. I cant really believe 2 small dane cities pose a true threat to Novgorod nor I can believe a war emerged on turn 2.

I cant really trust you right now.
I want you to know that I wont stop my attack on the TO. If anyone, you or Denmark, try to attack me while im destroying the TO, ill have no problem fighting them on my own. And having a new ally that has promised to help me in case im invaded, I can safely say that I wont fight on my own. So consider all this before thinking of attacking Lithuania.

The most important detail about this message is I reveal I have an ally, as to warn Gothic from doing anything to Mongolia. But I didnt knew Mongolia had already being invaded.

The reason I think Denmarks is bluffing is that, right after war rumours began, Gothic declined to help me against TO. So I thought those 2 could have teamed up in spite of what both Novgorod and Denmark had told me in private.

Once again, all this is before I knew about the Novgorod army on mongol territory.

Then Im told about the Novgorod Invasion and I recieve this message from Gothic:

It was not supposed to be like that.I offered Denmark to buy north and he did agree, and the same time I sent PM to HRE warning him that Danmark may attack him soon.That's it.Just a warning to HRE.

He canceled deal so war is inevitable, my army was on the way to Duraburg but it needs to come back and clear north.So I won't be able to help you with TO most probably - blame Denmark , he should stick to deal he did agreed *************************.

And I replied with this:

All that is not important now.
Situation has changed since your army was found inside mongolian territory. The Mongols happen to be my trustworthy allies I talked you about. Neither them nor me want war with you, so please retreat your troops from his territory and ill retreat mine.

I guess its not your fault, you didnt knew about Mongolia being my ally but we were planning to announce it on the 3rd turn.

Gothic replies amongst other things with this:

Mongols use you against me that's it.

After thinking about it, I dont know if this is true.

I attacked your troops and crushed them just to show you how easy is for Russian troops to defeat Lithuanian ones

I give you chance honorable leave my land or I will attack you and you are going to have major damage to your army...

This didnt made any sense to me. Gothic offers me not to attack me If i leave but he has already attacked some of my units!?!
And then after attacking my units, Gothic offers me this:
"If you drop Mongols, you will get trade rights with Russia,peace on the eastern flank so you can move all your troops against TO and I will share mongolian land with you and help you out with TO as soon I wipe off Denmark from north." I reject.

And the rest is history...

So basically the most important things to point out are this:
- Novgorod and Lithuania never had a closed deal, only unfinished negotiations.
- Novgorod ceased negotiations after Denmarks threat (thats because he never gave another counter offer).
- It is unknown for me whether Mongolia agreed on an alliance on the knowledge he was being invaded or not.
- I accidentaly declared war on Gothic and pointed it out to him.
- I didnt backstabed Gothic because all we had was unfinished negotiations and those negotiations ended with Gothic telling me he he couldnt help me with TO.
- I had a growing suspicion Denmark was allied with Gothic, since Gothic attacked my troops as if he was in the position of power and not in the position of someone who is about to get in a 3vs1 war.

Gothic, facts are, you got in war against Mongolia-Lithuania whether you expected ir or not and whether it was just or not. You were given the chance of peace so you could focus on Denmark and you rejected it by attacking my troops. You had the chance to go 1vs1 against soulfly but you rather chose have a 3vs1 by attacking my troops.
You made some errors, thats all.
From my view you contradicted yourself with each nation you are at war right now, therefore each nation responded:
1- Making a deal with Denmark and then trying to create distrust between Denmark and HRE.
2- Sending a huge army inside the territory of Mongolia and then wanting peace with them.
3- Not helping Lithuania with TO, nor anything, attacking Lithuania (after Lithuania invades Novgorod only to OBTAIN PEACE) and then wanting to have Lithuania as friends against Mongolia.

#70: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:05 pm
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My army was supposed to attack TO as we agreeded - not my fault - dishonorable Denmark canceled diplomatic deal.I had to turn back my army to defend Novgorod as Denmark recruited major army there.

Mongols are not without fault, he didnt' aproach me offering alliance so I got idea he will attack me, and most probably he planned as his army who took Mglin was larger than needed.

And please don't post so detailed - confidential - PMs or everybody will hate me LOL Very Happy

#71: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:14 pm
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— Saspi wrote

- It is unknown for me whether Mongolia agreed on an alliance on the knowledge he was being invaded or not.

Thats impossible as Soulfly subbed me on turn 1, the alliance was agreed before my first turn as mongols (turn 2) Soulfly told me nothing of Mongol invasion.

— Gothic wrote

Mongols are not without fault, he didnt' aproach me offering alliance so I got idea he will attack me, and most probably he planned as his army who took Mglin was larger than needed.

nope, wrong again, i didnt plan on attacking anyone at least right away, i didnt want an alliance with you as i knew you were an agressive player that would get me dragged into pointless wars that would get us both destroyed.

#72: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:30 pm
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— Death_Merchant wrote
agressive player that would get me dragged into pointless wars that would get us both destroyed.

oh really ... ? I was your best and most reliable ally and we had great success as allies until you failed me last hotseat. I remebered that ... if not Lithuania ... Anyway Smile

....time to forget about old gruges Gentelmen Smile

, future awais full of gold ,whores and glory ! No point to waste energy and money on pointless wars. I want to focus now on economy as recruitments cost me dearly...

I admit it was grave mistake to breach into Mongolian territorry but let me say this again, it was only border passing and scouting, not attack - I could take Mglin but I didn't. My armies pulled back from Mongolia (that fort will be demolished) and have no intentions to come back.

Novgorod will pay for border passing and finally will grant both of you trade rights, send your diplomats.

Tsar of Russia prizes wisdom of Great Mongolian Khan and mighty king of Lithuania, we are happy there still men of honor able to honor diplomatic agreements.

#73: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:40 pm
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You might later not be very happy of saying this:

we are happy there still men of honor able to honor diplomatic agreements.

Do you really want to discuss peace publicly? Ive invited you to an xfire chat, but if you want to discuss this publicly I have no problem.

#74: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:26 pm
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No private chat is going so public announcement:

Lithuania will continue war against Novgorod.
The gold offer is too low and even if it was high enough Lithuania cant have on the north a nation that attacked us recently.

We see the current situation as a great opportunity to get rid of an inminent threat to Lithuania.
May Giltine be with you Gothic.

#75: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:54 am
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#76: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:54 am
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So scared of me you need to gang with 3 vs 1 ratio to defeat me ? Very Happy

Novgorod is not a threat, you are threat to other nations as you attacked without warning,without reason despite we provided help to you and even after we asked for peace you still continue.I really hope other factions will not sit idle and will use opportunity you moved all your troops to east ... because you look like completly lunatic and unreliable faction.

Game is not fair as I was cheated by Denmark, and I will fight 3 vs 1 war but well, let's just hope I will go down quickly as I see no point to be in hotseat where other players gang on others with 3vs1 ratio even you asked for peace and backed off all your troops.

Disappointing Sad

#77: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:51 am
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gothic dont you wish at least to lead your men onto the field and barter a better deal before you tuck tale and run?? so far lithuania has only attacked you because of your advance on mongols,so its not quite 3 v 1 yet...maybe you should try other methods of contacting other factions,xfire,steam,ts etc...poland are growing strong while we all agrue lol...btw we are back on mp mtw2 if your up for a few games..

#78: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:01 pm
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No. mate I have been attacked because of pure greed.

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I retreated, I apologized,offered coins and peace and YET I'm being attacked and Lithuania sends their priests into my territory.They massed all their armies on my southern border preparing for invasion.

They know Russia is desperate situation and these cowards gang on me even though I beg for peace.Disgraceful.

I hope other factions are watching how Lithuania-Mongolia gang on me - even they gang on me they will gang on other factions, it is in their sneaky nature.

So far they achieved fucking NOTHING, oh sorry, they did - a lot of dead soldiers. Russia in act of complete desperation invaded deep into Mongolia and launched brave and surprising attack on army which was preparing for invasion of Russia ! Mongols has been defeated and their army has been hit with heavy casualties.

Tsar asks Lithuania - your big army has been spoted in the middle of Mongolia, preparing to assault our southern border, is it smart to have armies so far from your main cities ? They have been rumours your major cities been left with only tiny garrison to defend. Tsar wonders how much sacking of major city could be worth ... well it's filthy rich so amount of money must be crazy, 10.000 coins, 15.000 coins maybe even 20.000 ... that's crazy Shocked

... gosh

, we do really hope this information will not leak- because faction who would sack it would become most powerful faction.

BTW as I said AGAIN AND AGAIN - Novgorod is not interested in war with Lithuania and Mongols, when you will get tired sending your men to coffins and wasting money and I'm more than willing to have some peace agreement.So far you bleed, and you shall bleed if you will not BACK OFF.

I remind you DM as your army has been defeated you got no right to move it in upcoming round, and I have no right to attack it.

#79: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:43 pm
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Soulfly, any idea why I lost all my inbox messages? I also lost almost all of my sent messages.

#80: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:46 pm
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i deleted them all and left the most recent...i swear i havnt read them

#81: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:52 pm
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— Soulfly wrote
i deleted them all and left the most recent...i swear i havnt read them

Were they occupying too much space? You could have asked me, so I had a chance to save the ones that were important for me.

#82: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:53 pm
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sorry mate there was shit loads from all members,i just figured delete old,leave most recent...

#83: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:56 pm
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Here are my turn's screenshots

#84: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:49 pm
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Poland up

Denmark declares war on norway!

#85: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:13 pm
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Lithuania stated the following 2 days ago:

— Saspi wrote
Let all Nations know Novgorod invaded Mongolia with no other motive than pure greed.

Today Novgorod said in response to Soulfly:

— Gothic wrote
No. mate I have been attacked because of pure greed.

Since when is defending from an invasion pure greed?
The M-L Alliance has refused peace terms precisely because Novgorods greed has made us confident about Novgorod invading us in the close future in the case they won the Denmark war.
(Besides 300 gold doesnt compensate for 3 lithuanian dead units worth AT LEAST 1500 units including moral damage)

Had Novgorod not been a greedy Nation, the invading army would have been used against the TO as offered after Denmark war started. But no, greed controls Novgorods guts.

And it will be that same greed that will make you have your own guts spilled on the floor by ourselves.

#86: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 7:35 am
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Rubish, I'm not going to attack TO when you gather armies next to my borders.Simple as that.I offered you peace and you reject because you hope you can take Novgorod easy - it's not going to happen you are going to be dragged to bloody war when other factions invest into economies you spend on armies.

Be happy I offered you any money as you invaded my land.I offered as much treasury allowed.Should have taken deal when I offered.Now that deal is off the table and I offer long term peace with trade rights no payments will be made.

I send to both of you multiple PMs asking for peace and to be reasonable and clearly telling why war with me is bad idea and yet you continue hostile acts - send priests into my territory and preparing armies to invade.You clearly are dead set on destroying me though I offered to join your alliance and help you out.

What's shall I say ? Other factions laugh their ass off you. Your armies going to be destroyed and economy will collapse soon because you stick to silly idea of invading Novgorod.Not only you rejected one of the biggest and most powerful faction as ally but still try to invade it even though it asked so many times for peace.

Great strategy Laughing

#87: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:36 pm
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@HRE

I would like to point to HRE there is no allied victory. I sent you the famous PM warning you about Denmark getting dominant position and no matter what Soufly says I was right about it.As soon Denmark conquers Norway he will become most powerful faction, his enemies are far away and he safely grow till the point where he will just rollstream other factions.

If you enjoy being 'little brother' instead of taking a challenge and achieving something in this hotseat , that's fine but at the end you will be same looser as other factions because and you will need to give up to Denmark, even worse because without the fair fight as Denmark will be too huge too stop.

Decide by yourself, you want to stay little brother till the end or achieve something.You can't wait forever as I said Denmark will be soon too big too stop.

@Lithunia

Please stop posting false facts, everybody knows Novgorod doesn't invade Lithuania and no matter how often you will talk about me being agressor it's not going to change reality.Instead of defending from upcoming invasion of Teutonic Order most probably the very next round you send armies to support hostile
Mongols who gather troops near my borders.

I'm sorry but your Mongols are ill adviser and bad ally. The current war against Novgorod will make you being destroyed. He knows about it but he doesn't care as he uses you as cannon fodder against Novgorod to push his own objectivies. It's your first hotseat so you going to learn it the hard way. I find it hilarious DM told I dragged him into war which made us destroyed in some hotseat and yet - he is doing exactly same, dragging himself and his ally into war which will make both of destroyed soon.I asked both you -multiple- times about peace and both of you blantly rejected, so you can't tell I didn't try to avoid war.

You shall soon regret your fatal decisions.

#88: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:42 pm
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— Gothic wrote
Your armies going to be destroyed and economy will collapse soon because you stick to silly idea of invading Novgorod.Not only you rejected one of the biggest and most powerful faction as ally but still try to invade it even though it asked so many times for peace.

We are not the invaders, neither Mongolia nor Lithuania have any armies in Novgorod territory.
The only armies that ever went into your territory were in a mission of PEACE (not invasion), and you killed them knowing that...
Basically, you killed the only option of peace you had.

For any nation out there hear the comical song of the Loony Tsar:

Novgorod Tsar went and hid in Mongolia to thrust a knife on them.
But clever Mongolia Khan and Lithuania Grand Duke discover the coward before the thrust.
So to Novgorod goes the Grand Duke to show the Tsar a knife or a peace treaty to choose from.
The evil Tsar chooses the knife and stabs the Grand Duke.
Thus a stabbed Grand Duke leaves Novgorod telling the Tsar to prepare for war.
Nowadays the Great Khan and Grand Duke fight the evil Novgorod invasion.
All this while the loony Tsar swears he chose the peace treaty.

Ohhh loony Tsar wants peace to stab the Grand Duke again!!!
Ohh loony Tsar wants peace to stab the Great Khan once more!!!
Ohh loony Tsar wants peace to stab the Danish King anew!!!
But the Tsar can count... he may not be so loony after all...
2 hand are not enough to stab 3 kings after all...
So the Tsar may die after all...

Note: Out of character im not trying to be offensive here, just funny. If anyone finds it offensive i completely agree this is removed. And I apologize.

#89: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 9:09 pm
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Who said I will fight 3 ? I may always talk with Denmark and give him offer he won't refuse Smile

then he will just laugh his off seeing how Mongols and Lituania are slaughtered with hands of Russians.
Soufly is reasonable man, sneaky player and he is able to make wise strategic decisions to achieve victory unlike others ... also ... you better pray other factions won't take advantage of your position.

You got burned twice already , seems it ain't enough.

#90: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:55 pm
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Insulting me isn't going to keep you from getting annihilated first in this campaign.

#91: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:27 pm
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Sorry mate, done me moves took screenshots and had save game file ready to upload. Couldn't find the thread on the forum to post it. I did PM you Sad

#92: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:35 pm
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If you still here, you can still upload your turn since nobody has downloaded the subbed one.
Im not the admin here but thats what i did last turn and it was allowed.

Edit: I think hes gone Razz

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#93: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 11:37 pm
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If you already did your turn, then post it so the next player can use it

#94: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:05 am
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#95: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:29 am
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Novgorod asks Denmark for peace - we will take whatever offer you may give us even brutal terms of peace will be accepted.

#96: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:12 am
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no problem ares,thats my fault setup new mtw2 forums and the permissions were fucked up lol.

#97: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:40 am
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— Ranger wrote
Insulting me isn't going to keep you from getting annihilated first in this campaign.

Easy to be badboy when you hide behind Denmark's skirt Very Happy

Come and get me Very Happy

there 3vs1 right now seems not enough we need 4vs1 or hopefully TO will join against in crusade against us as we seen his army aproaching our borders so we should have some fair Wink

fight with 5 vs 1 ratio against Novgorod.

Denmark, holding north of Russia, posibly expanding even further soon into Russia, with Norway, rich islands, and HRE to help him out , no real enemies besides stupid AI - will be unstopable.I don't advise you to break alliance, or attack Denmark but you must acknowledge some simple strategic facts and you should admit you are helping Soufly to achieve victory instead of trying to do it yourself.

As for Novgorod being destroyed, well what can I say, even best player can't manage 4vs1 as I expect TO to attack me next round.So much for fair play. I blame Denmark for screwing game balance, if my north would be secure I would have no problems fighting Mongol-Lithuania invasion or even upcoming TO invasion.

With such huge land as Russia it impossible to fight on multiple direction when Mongols,Lithuania and Denmark will fight only on one direction. I asked -multiple- times for fair game, as I believe ganging on other factions is just not right, all my peace offers has been rejected or ignored and no chance of fair fight to Russia has been given.

I must say I hope some of will get gang as I'm right now with no help or whatever from any other factions. It's seriously not fun as nobody likes to be screwed.Fair enough.

#98: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:45 am
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Mongols return Novgorods favor with a clear victory over invading armies.

Note for Gothic: This is the first time Mongols ever acted in agression, its been all you so far.

#99: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:08 am
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Looks for me you used armies which has been defeated last round which is against rules - admin please clear up.

#100: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:14 am
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No i didnt, i had another army in the woods, i couldnt even move my troops that were defeated anyway

If you need further proof i can provide screenshotsLast edited by Death_Merchant on Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:14 am; edited 1 time in total

#101: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:14 am
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i dont have time to check turns,leaving in 5 mins..death has told me that none of them are the units you defeated..ill get him to reply,if your happy with that then the hotseat will continue...if not replay after death and ill check turns later and confirm..

EDIT:DEATH REPLYED BEFORE ME LOL

#102: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:21 am
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Captain Tsagadai was defeat last round.

#103: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:30 am
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Tsar of Russia asks Poland to step in and declare war Lithuania and Mongols.We offer alliance, trade rights and land for your help against this unfair war.Your support is crucial for Novgorod I would like also point strong Mongolian-Lithuania alliance may not be in best Polish interest ... when they gang on Novgorod like that soon they may find another victim to steal and rape because it's in their nature.

#104: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:50 am
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Well done Death Merchant. I cant say the same for me:

#105: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 11:52 am
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Here you go Gothic.

#106: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:12 pm
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— Gothic wrote
Captain Tsagadai was defeat last round.

I dont see any screenshot of that

#107: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:40 pm
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good honest post saspi,many would have reloaded etc..

#108: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 1:49 pm
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gothic are you happy enough with what death has said,or do you want turns checked?

#109: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:28 pm
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yes im fine, minor issue which doesnt change anything, i will post my save in the evening today don't sub me.

#110: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 3:49 pm
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Russian troops suffered heavy losses in last battle and YET in act of desperation they attacked deep into Mongolia taking settlements of Mglin and Chernobyl.Lithuania also has been attacked and Homel has fallen into russian rule. SLAVA ! Filthy and dirty Mongols and Lithuanian has been punished.

Let this be a lesson for invaders - DO NOT fuck with Russia.

War is not over as we expect furious response but them know - we are ready and they shall bleed until peace will be made. And BTW Lithuania, nice army in Minsk soon you will be able to use it against Teutonic Order as strong TO army has been spotted aproaching one of your settlements Very Happy

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#111: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:25 pm
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The Emperor is pleased to have conquered another rebel settlement.

#112: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:06 pm
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Poland up

#113: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 10:05 pm
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Will upload save game file by 11.30am tomoz.

#114: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:55 am
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#115: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:19 pm
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Mongols aren't going down without a fight

#116: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 6:54 pm
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file is here thought i uploaded it yesterday...

#117: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 8:36 pm
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Also the village Novgorod took away from Lithuania has been recovered with no casualties.
The Novgorod army responsible from such crime has hidden in a fort. It is already under siege.

#118: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:31 pm
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will post soon ....

#119: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:39 am
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In the deadly attack against Lithuanian troops sieging Homel, not only we achieved victory but we totally destroyed Lithuanian army - nobody survived. Homel is still Russian ! SLAVA !!!!

Mongol settlement has been captured and sacked no screens as there were no soldiers inside :D

Narva captured, we don't declare war on war we just take land you promised us.

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#120: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:54 am
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Im actually somewhat glad you won those Gothic, I was starting to think you were under unfair circumstances. Now I guess things have gone more fair and I can have no remorse in destroying Novgorod now Smile

Enjoy your current and maybe future victories, while they last...

#121: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:57 am
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haha you killed my 2 units of pesants,almost the perfect turn gothic...keep that army in the north if you dare,spose you have no choice to..

#122: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:55 am
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ROAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

this is Russia

Situation is still hard, I managed to win round only thanks to pure luck, please don't abuse fact I'm at with 3 factions now it would be unfair as you challange only stupid AI and I challenge one of the best MW player DeathMerchant.

It's easy to be bad boy when HRE protects you from one side and Norway defends from you from other.

#123: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:59 am
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Go ahead, waste another army on me.

#124: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:39 pm
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I might be wrong but i doubt you can defeat us all Gothic.

Mongols will never accept any form of peace till Novgorod is burned to the ground

#125: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:42 pm
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the king of denamrk calls on HRE and Poland to join our war on terror lol,the savages in Novgorod must be distroyed.join us now!!

#126: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:12 pm
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Denmark is up

#127: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:54 pm
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Poland up

#128: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:22 am
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Will do my move in the morning...just got in from work. Will post mongols turn by noon.

#129: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:19 am
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— Death_Merchant wrote

Mongols will never accept any form of peace till Novgorod is burned to the ground

Tsar of Russia truly admire your diplomatic skills .... Laughing

#130: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:26 am
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— Soulfly wrote
the king of denamrk calls on HRE and Poland to join our war on terror lol,the savages in Novgorod must be distroyed.join us now!!

Denmark shows their real face now - thieves and rapists ! You have no shame as you attacked without no reason tiny and poor Norway.

You are lucky HRE protects you as you have no real enemies besides stupid AI .You would not stand a chance against mighty Russia in 1vs1 battle so you need to 3vs1 ratio. This is alliance of cowards who must gang in numbers to feel like a real men because they know in fair fight they would stand no chance. How disappoitning ...
Easy to be bad boy when you sit far far behind sea, far from enemies and HRE protects you haha Laughing

This war is pure greed - sharks felt blood and want their share but we will not go down without the fight.

#131: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 6:31 am
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— Death_Merchant wrote
I might be wrong but i doubt you can defeat us all Gothic.

Rubish,we don't want defeat you just fair peace was offered that's all - instead you reject and gang in numbers against us despite us asking for peace. Disgraceful and dishonorable.

A gang of vultures not - honorable kings - you may destroy Russia but you shall be destroyed later by hostile alliance.

#132: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:44 pm
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#133: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:47 pm
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Heads Up......Huge Teutonic Army at Riga. 20+ Units. Crying or Very sad

#134: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:53 pm
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Lithuania Up

#135: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:44 am
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They are a menace! They have grown so dam fast for the last turns.

It appears that im the only looser that gets tons of defeats when attacking. But im learning...

Your move Mr. Gothic.

#136: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:52 am
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nice one,the To cant have much land left now?gothic will be next Very Happy

#137: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:34 pm
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cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnn gothic

#138: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:38 pm
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Make your move Gothic ..... I'm in work 12 hour days for the next 7 days ..... This is going at a snails pace!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#139: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:05 am
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The fact you are so inpatient Soufly worries me ... waiting for something ? Very Happy

I will post as soon as possible , hang on guys, I'm kinda busy now.

#140: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:46 am
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Treacherous and agressive Mongols attacked deep into Russia sieging Mglin but thanks to fanatic russian soldiers defending our land they have been repelled.

#141: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:41 am
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am just keen to do my turn,campains are good fun.would be kool if we could get everyone on ts,somthing like every sat were could have a time limit on turn and get a few turns done

#142: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:29 pm
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The Holy Roman Empire officially breaks its alliance with Poland since the Teutonic regions near Poland have now been conquered, thus ending the agreement. I had agreed to maintain peace as long as the Teutonics were a threat to Poland, and since they are no longer a threat to him, there is no reason to continue the peace treaty. Therefore, war has now begun between the Germans and the Poles. I have struck at Poland's capital, and I have destroyed the large army within it while also suffering heavy casualties.

#143: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:02 pm
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Look like Poland could be in trouble....Very sneaky HRE

Norway have been distroyed and war is declared on the TO

#144: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:06 am
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We are all fucked now. I warned you guys about HRE-Denmark getting advantage and here it is ...
I predict Denmark will win game as united Denmark-Norway is unstopable.

#145: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:19 am
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gothic trying to scare others into attacking us Very Happy

#146: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:51 am
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No mate, nobody is going to attack you.

HRE is your buddy
Poland is invaded and far away
Lithuania and Mongols fight with Novgorod and bleed
Novgorod fights with them

You made it way to easy for you I must say Very Happy

For me game is over as I will not survive attack of Denmark. I hoped Norway will make you more busy. HRE as your ally fucks up game as you have no competition to fight for land.I was 100% right about warning HRE about Denmark but I didnt expect him to ally with you. I also hoped Norway will not be AI .

Poland is mighty and HRE will bleed in a war while Denmark has unlimited possibilities to attack and gain new territories as your potential enemies are stupid AI or weakened Novgorod. Even if HRE will succeed in war against Poland Denmark is going to outgrow and rollstream him.

Rigid alliances screw up gameplay - if HRE would declare he is not going to be your ally forever you would have to be very careful otherwise is just way too easy as you are fully secured on your back otherwise it is just going to be rollstreaming and raping defensless factions which is kinda boring.

I mean , seriously, where is fun for you fighting with Novgorod knowing

1) you are fully secured on your back as Norway is gone and HRE is your ally
2) you got no enemies
3) Novgorod is at war with 3 factions already and TO armies nearby our border

Where is challenge in this ? You will rollstream me in few rounds because you have 1 front I have 3 fronts to fight.

Do you remeber that hotseat on Twcenter Very Happy

where Swarb was TO ? We asked everybody to ally against TO and not let him grow as it would screw up gameplay.Nobody listen so he just rollstreamed later everybody.

HRE should ask himself if alliance with Denmark is in his -strategic - interest. Denmark-Norway is going to be most powerful faction in few rounds as they have very rich land, powerful armies and NO ENEMIES to challange them. So , HRE ... you can have your war with Poland but you will be same looser as we are at the end because you let Denmark feel secure and expand.

I don't ask you to break alliance and attack Denmark but in some point you must decide if you want to win game or be the 'little brother' . If you will leave Denmark as it is you lost game already.

#147: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:04 pm
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— Gothic wrote
I mean , seriously, where is fun for you fighting with Novgorod knowing

The King of Denmark will take great plesure in seeing Novgorod crushed...The TO will fall soon,that may help you alittle lol...Its to early to say whos gonna win,but your message above is kinda like the message you sent to ranger..You need to say this,and try turn factions against each other so you can have a chance...

#148: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:36 pm
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It's all common sense simple as that. Game is just too easy for you as you fight only AI or gang on faction who are at war with multiple enemies already (Novgorod) it would not happen if HRE keep you in check. HRE will shoot himself in the foot though, I believe he will loose game just a bit later because he made mistake to let you grow in peace and expand.

It's not shame to fall when you fight with 3vs1 ratio, you would stand bloody and long fight if I wouldn't have to fight on muliple directions.

Let's be done with it Smile

I won many times now it's time to loose :)

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Though .... If I would be HRE ... and would like to win game I would exploit fact you are going to war with Novgorod and you will leave your western and southern areas most probably undefended by any major forces. You are going to be spread and of HRE will not exploit this situation he is going to fail later.

I don't advise HRE to attack you or break alliance but he must decide - if he playes game and makes strategic decisions - or- will be your 'little brother' till it's too late.

#149: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:34 pm
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lol there alot of land in the south for hre to grow,more than there is in denmark...

#150: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:04 pm
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The Holy Roman Empire officially breaks its alliance with Poland since the Teutonic regions near Poland have now been conquered, thus ending the agreement

No such agreement existed....

You will never be trusted again Ranger Treacherous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#151: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:07 pm
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Just admit you are scared Ranger would realize his allianced with you will make him fail at the end and not so good deal as it looks Smile

All your strategy depends on HRE being your friend as long as possible.

#152: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:20 pm
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#153: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:51 pm
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no reload turn rule has been removed,its something that cant be enforce and say if someone keeps to rule and another doesnt theres a clear advantage..if you do reload dont take the piss and reload 30 times lol

#154: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:55 pm
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To be honest i think the alliance benifits HRE and Denmark the same..Ive spoken to ranger many times about alliance,no worries here.Denmark are honoured to call HRE allies

**King Soulfly raises a goblet of ale** To the alliance,HAIL HRE!!

#155: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:39 pm
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Lithuania publicly announces their disapproval of the recent HRE actions.
Novgorod advances, HRE advances, we stand our ground.

#156: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:41 pm
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— Soulfly wrote
no reload turn rule has been removed,its something that cant be enforce and say if someone keeps to rule and another doesnt theres a clear advantage..if you do reload dont take the piss and reload 30 times lol

Wheres the trust on our honesty?

#157: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:48 pm
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— Saspi wrote
— Soulfly wrote
no reload turn rule has been removed,its something that cant be enforce and say if someone keeps to rule and another doesnt theres a clear advantage..if you do reload dont take the piss and reload 30 times lol

Wheres the trust on our honesty?

you have proved you dont reload with that post you made before..i have doubts everyone only plays one turn only,its impossible to enforce the rule,if someone if breaking it and others dont theres a huge advantage..if its ok then everyone can,making it fair...but reloaded lots of times is taking the piss.

#158: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:13 pm
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Last edited by Ares0 on Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:00 pm; edited 1 time in total

#159: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:51 pm
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After numerous warning from other factions, I was foolish enough to trust my ally. Unlike HRE, I honour my word and dont attack nations I have treaties with... a harsh lesson learned .....

Beware YOU could be next!!!

#160: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:21 am
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Saspi, what am I supposed to do? Sit and do nothing? I have an ally on both sides, so I had to break one alliance rofl. If I sat and did nothing, that would be really boring and pointless.

#161: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:28 am
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— Ranger wrote
Saspi, what am I supposed to do? Sit and do nothing? I have an ally on both sides, so I had to break one alliance rofl. If I sat and did nothing, that would be really boring and pointless.

You chose to have those allies on both of your sides. I dont know why you chose to do that if you were going to attack one of them anyway, unless of course you planned to backstab right since the beggining.
Backstab, backstab...
Im starting to smell Novgorod here.

You lied to me. You first told me you were gonna invade Poland. Then you made an alliance with them and told me you had changed your mind and you werent going to invade Poland anymore. And now you invade them...
Contradiction after contradiction, just like Gothic.

Mongolia Lithuania and Denmark have had tough times fighting Novgorod. And now I see that you suggested to Poland, an invasion of Mongolia and Lithuania due to the recent Novgorod victories. If your true interest was to defeat Novgorod, as you said to me one day, you wouldnt have suggested that. If you really cared about your ally Denmark you wouldnt have suggested to help his enemy, Novgorod.

I insist, there are too many contradictions and similarities that seem to indicate Ranger is right now helping Gothic. Had an invasion of Mongolia and Lithuania happened, Novgorod would have had very high chances of winning the war or at least of not loosing the war as how it appears they are heading to, right now.
Im not saying Ranger must have a deal with Gothic but, whatever the reasons, Ranger is working as if he was an agent of Gothics interests.

Denmark what would have happened to you if Ranger had managed to get an invasion going over Lithuania and Mongolia? It wouldnt only have meant that Novgorod would have been stronger. It also would have meant that there were high chances Ranger would have backstabbed you rather than Poland. He doesnt want Novgorod to die because for him it would mean that Mongolia Lithuania and Denmark would be more powerfull than him.

Im sorry for you Ranger, but it looks like Gothics poisonous words have penetrated deep into your head.

I will discuss with Mongolia all this.

#162: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:52 am
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On the other hand, the plan of invasion Ranger offered could have just been a bait to make everyone declare war on Poland. But Lithuania wasnt informed of this. Were the Mongols? Were the Danes?

I would have definitely not agreed on recieving an attack only to help the HRE satisfy their greed.
Besides I would have never backstabed Poland who helped us on the destruction of the Teutonic Order.

As an ally, did you knew about Rangers plan of invasion Soul? I might be wrong, but arent you also allied to Poland?

#163: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:48 am
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[quote="Saspi";p="9229"]

— Ranger wrote

Im sorry for you Ranger, but it looks like Gothics poisonous words have penetrated deep into your head.

Bla bla bla .... rubish yes blame me for global warning, HIV, bad economy and whatever.You should be quiet Saspi - everybody knows you backstabbed Novgorod despite us sending you help so you have no moral ground to judge me. You hoped to steal my land as you rejected peace and now you are a saint LOL :D

I have no deal with HRE as he is ally of my enemy. Their game is simple they try to make Poland attack Lithuania, Mongols and then HRE-Denmark will ally with Lithaunia-Mongols against "bad" Poland.Then Novgorod, Mongols and Lithuania shall be destroyed easily.

Good cop and bad cop )

#164: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:40 am
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Bla bla bla .... rubish yes blame me for global warning, HIV, bad economy and whatever.You should be quiet Saspi - everybody knows you backstabbed Novgorod despite us sending you help so you have no moral ground to judge me. You hoped to steal my land as you rejected peace and now you are a saint LOL :D

I have no deal with HRE as he is ally of my enemy. Their game is simple they try to make Poland attack Lithuania, Mongols and then HRE-Denmark will ally with Lithaunia-Mongols against "bad" Poland.Then Novgorod, Mongols and Lithuania shall be destroyed easily.

Good cop and bad cop )

Im not blaming you at all gothic. I also think its unlikely that you have a deal with Ranger. Im just trying to say that Ranger is acting as if he wanted to make Denmark weaker by making Novgorod strong, similarly as you advised him to do. I think such attempt is obviously against Soulflys interests. You are not even close to dead Gothic, so Ranger attempted to use your power to make Denmark have a slower growth.

Its evident that Ranger and Soulfly are close allies, but that doesnt prevent them to try and get an advantage above the other one as small as it may be. I still need to know Soulflys knowledge of the invasion. But even if your good cop-bad cop theory is right, I think that Soulfly could have had other choices rather than allowing the abusive Rangers plans which clearly made Soulfly weaker in the long term.

But now that Poland stands its ground against the lone HRE, Denmark more than ever is growing much more powerful than the HRE. This, together with Rangers willingness to backstab, has made Lithuania think that the HRE might be thinking of desperate measures to secure a future win. I would be more than glad to discuss this dangers with Denmark for an ally that has backstabbed another nation will be able to backstab another ally again just as easy.

Saspi - everybody knows you backstabbed Novgorod

Cheers, loony Tsar.

#165: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:42 pm
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Mongols are interested in a Triple Alliance containing Poland, Mongols, Lithuania

We are the victims of vicious attacks, burning and pillaging of our peace loving lands, we will repel and destroy all invaders

#166: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:42 pm
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Lithuania

#167: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:08 pm
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I figured since Gothic is getting all the abuse, starting another war would make the campaign more interesting. Plus I would have nothing to do, so why bother sitting around when I could capture a large city without him even having a chance to reinforce it?

#168: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:18 pm
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No Reinforcements Ha Ha Ha ...... Razz

#169: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:55 pm
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— Ranger wrote
I figured since Gothic is getting all the abuse, starting another war would make the campaign more interesting. Plus I would have nothing to do, so why bother sitting around when I could capture a large city without him even having a chance to reinforce it?

And where is that abuse coming from? Gothic hasnt lost a single city, castle or town yet. Hell, we havent even invaded his original territory since my peace forces retreated! I cant see abuse coming from neither Mongolia nor Lithuania. You cant be talking of Denmark either, they are your own ally! Why abuse then?
You asked us to attack Novgorod and here we are doing what we promised. Mongolia-Lithuania could have got peace with Novgorod but Lithuania chose to keep their promise and help Denmark destroy his enemy.

We have no problem with Denmark, they have not only honoured their promise but also are also helping us to finish off the TO. The problem is with you Ranger! All the game you have:
1. sat back attacking weak rebels
2. made alliances with all your neighbours (as if you were a peaceful nation, ha!)
3. saw everyone but you fight the TO or Novgorod
4. told everyone you support them in their fight!

Now you:
1. attack Poland (your ally, thats backstabing)
2. make plots against nations that were friendly to you
3. still see everyone but you fight the TO or Novgorod
4. tell everyone the nations that wage war against Novgorod are abusive

Ok, so you basically invaded an ally for fun... Cool. I wouldnt have you as an ally by the way...

#170: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:18 am
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Ares amassed a large army in his capital right next to my borders, along with another 500-man army close behind. With TO in control on Poland's side, I doubt he was going to keep the peace for long. Pre-emptive strike for the win!

#171: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:00 am
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— Ranger wrote
Ares amassed a large army in his capital right next to my borders, along with another 500-man army close behind. With TO in control on Poland's side, I doubt he was going to keep the peace for long. Pre-emptive strike for the win!

Really? You cant really be expecting me to believe that ridiculous argument.
Gothic said the same thing after invading Mongolia:
"Russia in act of complete desperation invaded deep into Mongolia and launched brave and surprising attack on army which was preparing for invasion of Russia"

Everyone knows it was a straight and unjustified backstab, get over with it.

We obviously reject your offer of alliance and trade rights.

Here you go Gothic.

#172: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:14 am
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— Death_Merchant wrote
Mongols are interested in a Triple Alliance containing Poland, Mongols, Lithuania

You have nothing to offer as ally.

Your economy is bankrupt and your army is demolished, cities are about to rebel. I warned you ... I asked multiple times for peace but you rejected all my peace efforts, now it's too late and you are on mercy of other factions.

#173: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:19 am
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[quote="Saspi";p="9238"]

— Ranger wrote

You asked us to attack Novgorod and here we are doing what we promised. Mongolia-Lithuania could have got peace with Novgorod but Lithuania chose to keep their promise and help Denmark destroy his enemy.

Haha

they played you as pawns on chessboard, so now it's clear Lithuania-Mongols plotted with Denmark to destroy Novgorod, what a bunch of snakes ! :D

I'm sorry but they used you as tool against me, Novgorod is only faction able to challenge Denmark that's why they are so desperate to destroy us as Mongols-Lithuania will be easy victim for heavy Danish troops.

I offered you alliance and promised to support you as I consider Denmark my main enemy but you rejected my peace and alliance proposal.

#174: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:45 pm
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— Ranger wrote
Ares amassed a large army in his capital right next to my borders, along with another 500-man army close behind. With TO in control on Poland's side, I doubt he was going to keep the peace for long. Pre-emptive strike for the win!

The Army that was in Poznan posed no threat to you Ranger....stop making excuses for your back stabbing!!!
I should have re-loaded my game a few times and found your army, but I stuck to the Rules. ( Now Old Rules )

#175: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:04 pm
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Well if you are re-loadng so you can scout the whole map is allowed, then you shouldn't play. It's your fault that you don't scout, so don't cheat out of anger

#176: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:33 pm
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Never reloaded as it was stated in Rules not to reload....since has been changed....If I reloaded would have seen your Armies and it would have been game over for you!!

Anyway Backstabber, I'll have no more communications with you!!! Last post I make regarding you being a sneaky little coward F***!!

#177: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:15 am
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Now I understand why Soufly so impatiently waits for his turns, he basically won game already.Denmark is rising quicker as any other faction thanks to Norway land and lack of real enemies. Danish army has been spotted sieging northern TO settlement !

Denmark will win game - you make guys way too easy for him, he will rape soon any other faction, including HRE at the end.

Well played Soufly Smile

This time you managed to set everybody against everybody and achieved dominance in round 8 LOL.

#178: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:53 am
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Gothic theres still alot to play for yet...You aint doing bad as you make out.

HRE subed as requested,ranger moving and doesnt have pc at moment

Small polish army probaly used to scout has been defeated,the polish king has been spotted in the north marching towards HRE.

Man of the hour after victory

The King of Denmark is pleased with the capture of first TO region,the King has ordered another army to siege another TO region.More ships and units land in support,ready for novgorod army that advances!

Poland up

#179: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:15 am
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Don't downplay your position, you are leader just after TO. Soon you will snatch best TO cities and we are all finished.Now when you double play as HRE and Denmark there is not even smallest chance for reasonable decisions.

#180: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:17 am
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ranger is my allie,i spoke to him last night and he told me what he wanted done in turn.thats what i done

death has said when he gos away hes happy for allie to sub him or admin,probaly best if its allie..

#181: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:46 pm
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OK, fair enough, let's die in glory then. I expected the game to last longer though it's very dynamic LOL Very Happy

#182: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:56 pm
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Mongols Up next!!!

#183: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:05 pm
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Glory for brave Poland !

#184: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:34 pm
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— Gothic wrote
Glory for brave Poland !

I'll keep Fighting Gothic, To The very end!!!!

#185: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:13 pm
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Lithuania

Mongols are finished, anyone interested in subbing? If not i will fight to the end

#186: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:38 pm
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I captured his largest city, Poland cannot win regardless of what he tries to do. Sry, but without money to advance your buildings and make armies, I win by a war of attrition.Last edited by Ranger on Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:42 pm; edited 1 time in total

#187: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:41 pm
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I'm close to collapse Ranger....not much of an Army left.....but, i'll keep going!!!!

#188: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:48 am
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Damn this hotseat goes way to fast Smile

... well looks it will end with HRE-Denmark victory as I predicted.

Rejecting my offer of alliance was biggest mistake Lithuania-Mongol did, we could end war many rounds ago and push off HRE-Denmark as I told you.For fall of Mongols are resposible only Mongols. I asked many times DeatchMerchant for peace but he decided to continue war.You underestimated your opponent.

Poland instead of wasting armies on TO should prepare for war with HRE.
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Guys I warned you HRE-Denmark will rise but you didn't want to listen (esp. Lithuania) now we must all be destroyed :)

The only thing what could change game flow now and bring game to balance would be peace between Poland-HRE and HRE cancelling alliance with Denmark but it's unlikely too happen Sad

(

#189: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:04 am
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lol you keep saying that.....i was thinking you,saspi,ares and death would allie..but that wont happen as you smell blood with mongols and are gready lol

#190: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:44 am
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Moral ground is mine as I offered them peace and alliance. They rejected and vowed to destroy me completly and now happened exactly what I warned them about - they bleed.

I don't blame Saspi, he just wanted to be good ally and support his mate, unfortunately Mongols happen to be agressive player who dragged them into war which may have them both destroyed.

Peace with Lithuania is still on the table. Poland - Lithuania and Novgorod must ally and fight against incoming HRE-Denmark agression.Chances we may win are small but at least we should try and die with honor. It would all would never happen if my warnings would be taken into consideration.

#191: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 11:59 am
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as long as you get to take over mongols then if you say am main threat at moment then you would become main threat lol with mongols land...nice try

#192: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 3:45 pm
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It's all pointless talk, of course you interested in other factions not paying attention to HRE-Denmark agression. So far everything goes as I predicted and most probably it will go.

Long before Mongols will fall, till this time everything may change.I'm not greedy and don't intend to keep everything for myself.

#193: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:37 pm
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Incoming turn... sorry for the long wait Gothic.

#194: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:00 am
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We will not get peace with Novgorod. Mongolia please dont lose hope, even if you lose your mayor cities Lithuania promises we will recover them and return them to you.

Busy day, here your turn Gothic:

#195: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:00 pm
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— Saspi wrote

We will not get peace with Novgorod. Mongolia please dont lose hope, even if you lose your mayor cities Lithuania promises we will recover them and return them to you.

What ? You decided to be little pest with no purpose but to screw up other's player's game Evil or Very Mad

. First you gang with Mongols on me and now with Denmark Evil or Very Mad

even though it's Denmark-HRE who is major threat to all players. Amazing. Denmark will win game without any major shot, Lithuania instead of unite with Novgorod and Poland choose the path of the coward and will support the stronger against already damaged Poland and Novgorod. OMFG ! No hope for this hotseat Evil or Very Mad

, Soufly, please shorten my agony and kill me off Mad

I will post my game tomorrow no time today to play sorry.

#196: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:33 pm
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lol take your time,you will live longer Very Happy

#197: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:37 pm
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#198: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:52 pm
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Poland up

ranger will return next turn

#199: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:34 am
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Will post when i wake up later...night night... Shocked

#200: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:54 pm
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#201: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:14 pm
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Slaughter has begun, now Denmark will rollstream Novgorod then Poland will fall.Lithuania is disappointing as he decided to join the side already stronger ones he serves no purpose but to harm Novgorod. I hope Colin takes TO so we could rearrange alliances or game looks like dead end.

The game is already having victor as Denmark with help of HRE and Lithuania is rising to main faction now. You made it for him way too easy. I have moral ground as I'm only faction opposing and warning about agressive Denmark from round 1, and here it is. Wait few more rounds and Denmark will be unstopable thanks to brainless help from HRE and Lithuania.

While HRE is having his silly war with Poland, Denmark doesn't sleep and is taking one settlement after another from TO.Even if HRE takes Poland, he will not be able to match Denmark which aproaches Novgorod land already.

HRE is cowardish faction, under umbrella of Denmark he sneaky attacked Poland.Even if you crush Poland you will be beaten by Denmark as he getting best land quickly. Denmark will win not because he was best but because you let him won too easily.

I dare Denmark, if you want fair fight, have peace with us as we are not unable to have war. Let us prepare and then we should have fair and honorable fight not cowardish rollstreaming. Thanks you Norway being AI and HRE your little helper you gained more than you actually could.

#202: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:15 pm
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stop whining gothic...geez

#203: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:26 pm
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colin cant take TO,there was a reason TO was set to AI....gothic wants colin to take TO so his faction might live longer...i have offered colin mongols but to be honest theres no point as they are finished.i am all for setting mongols to AI now,just waiting on colin to reply....how ever if hotseat members want TO now to be human player then speak up,i have no problem if its ok with everyone else

#204: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:09 pm
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Hmmm im quite surprised Death really withdraw from the Campaign, I dont know why he gave up so fast. I tried to help him, but with the TO on the north the support I could provide was doomed to be slow and minimal. I wonder what will happen if someone subbs him. If he is turned into an AI, ill just lose my alliance.

#205: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:18 pm
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saspi is doesnt matter if he plays,if hes replaced or its AI mongols are finished...they are over 8000 in debt and lost 2 regions....

#206: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:58 pm
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Mongols are finished not because of me but because of their inability to make diplomacy, basically few rounds ago I begged DeathMerchant for peace, and even offered to join Lithuania-Mongol alliance but he rejected all my asks for peace so I had no choice but to destroy him because he didn't want to make any diplomatic arrangments with Novgorod which was dire strategic mistake I must say.

He underestimited my military abilities and rushed his armies into my territory where he was ambushed and defeated.I warned Mongols and Lithuania this war is pointless and will cost them dearly but they completly ignored my warnings.

I don't feel guilty as moral ground is mine - peace, coins,alliance was offered, all rejected, not my fault really.

#207: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:03 pm
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Didnt knew about the debt being so big. Ohhh well, I think if Mongols really are defeated they should just be replaced by an AI. I also have no problem with someone taking over the TO if they want.

#208: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:05 pm
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— Gothic wrote
Mongols are finished not because of me but because of their inability to make diplomacy, basically few rounds ago I begged DeathMerchant for peace, and even offered to join Lithuania-Mongol alliance but he rejected all my asks for peace so I had no choice but to destroy him because he didn't want to make any diplomatic arrangments with Novgorod which was dire strategic mistake I must say.

He underestimited my military abilities and rushed his armies into my territory where he was ambushed and defeated.I warned Mongols and Lithuania this war is pointless and will cost them dearly but they completly ignored my warnings.

I don't feel guilty as moral ground is mine - peace, coins,alliance was offered, all rejected, not my fault really.

You wanted peace, but only when you were desperate to obtain it. You are the invader nation in this war, never forget that.

#209: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:08 pm
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Not true, there was tension and peace was offered, multiple times, coins offered,trade rights offered,alliance offered - your answer was : KILL KILL KILL. You offered nothing but war,no peace not even terms for peace which was silly mistake as I was so desperate I was willing to give settlement for peace but you never asked - just attacked me all the time.

I never invaded Lithuania - you have been attacked after you breached into my land and blackmailed me in direspectful way.

#210: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:16 pm
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If we want fair game not shameful rollstreaming we need TO as human player to rearrange alliances. AI is just too stupid to offer any challenge for Denmark.

#211: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:18 pm
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how many regions does TO have now?i know still have alot ££

#212: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:28 pm
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Denmark is almost equal to TO, should match it or become more powerful in few rounds and everybody stands and watches free nations being raped by savages from Denmark !

#213: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:39 pm
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ok just to keep you happy TO set to human.

the king of denmark welcomes new TO king to our halls anytime and asks you to consider helping us distroy novgorod

remember once gothic takes all mongols land,he will be just as powerfull as me....if not more

mongols set to AI,saspi,colin,ares take land before gothic... Very Happy

lithuania up

#214: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:09 am
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I thought Denmark wanted to destroy the TO and now they seek peace with them?
Lithuania wont be able to stop Novgorod if the TO is still alive.
They have always been an obstacle in the war against Novgorod and they still are, it doesnt matter who their king is. Also the only TO city close to Novgorod is under siege by me, so soon they wont be able to offer any help against Novgorod.

I am sure that if Denmark makes peace with the TO, Novgorod will capture all Mongolia. We wont be able to stop them from doing that. Please Denmark, help us destroy the TO that has obstructed the war against Novgorod.

Gothic, you have no moral ground at all.
When you first invaded Mongolia you tried to obtain peace only with Mongolia or only with Lithuania never with both of us. It was only when Denmark became your enemy and when you realized that to invade one of us you had to be in war with both of us, that you tried to obtain peace with both of us. But by that moment you had attacked already some Lithuania soldiers in both Novgorod territory and Mongol territory, you had insulted us, you had assasinated a merchant, you hadnt retreated from Mongolia either and you had conspired to break Mongolia alliance so you could invade one of us. So based on those events your offers of peace were and are still answered with KILL KILL KILL. But for the record, in the past we did offered you peace in exchange of the retreat of your invading army (nothing else), but let me repeat once again, you did all those atrocious things I have mentioned before that forced us to withdraw that offer.

Game is balanced. If it was unbalanced for you, its because of your actions. But game is balanced righteoulsy.
So dont try to cover the truth. You only wanted peace when you were about to lose, but it was you who started the war by invading Mongolia and it was you who rejected the very first offer of peace. Had Lithuania not declared war on you, you would have declared war on Mongolia. Had you wanted peace you would have accepted a peace that demanded nothing but retreating your army on Mongolia. If anyone made the game balance as it is today, thats you Gothic.

#215: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:09 am
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Novgorod hails the TO, please look herr meister we are not at war with you and in fact in friendy relationships.It's sneaky Denmark who invaded your land and steals your property.Novgorod offers help to push off Denmark from mainland and recover your land.

#216: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:09 pm
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Thanks for setting TO to human...benefits me in NO way. Whoever plays the TO will want to take back what was orig his.....Last edited by Ares0 on Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:45 pm; edited 1 time in total

#217: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:34 pm
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cant please everyone...its all gothics moaning...lol

ares has a point..

how about this time vote and everyone must reply this time without holding up campain?

should TO be ai or human??all hs players must reply.

HRE-
Novgorod-
Lithuania-
Poland-
Denmark-as admin id rather not

#218: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:18 pm
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I personally dont think its a good idea to drop someone in mid game especially if its the main faction in question, the dynamics of the game would change completely. Factions who were fighting the TO could and would prob ally ... that would just turn the game on its head.

In hindsight it maybe best in the next hotseat to have the most powerful faction, ie TO be controlled by a human player. I know this was put forward before we started and even I wanted TO set to AI, but I think with an intelligent player controlling the TO it would have made for a far more intresting game as the TO in this hotseat seem to have rolled over and died.

#219: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:12 pm
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If the TO is completely dead on Poland side I vote that a human can take over the TO because I really dont mind fighting the TO on my side as human.

However if there is any chance that TO might recover the lost territory on Poland side I vote against a human taking control of the TO.

EDIT: If a human takes over the TO, Lithuania will have a more difficult game but we dont mind unless someone else minds, in this case Poland so my vote I guess is a no.

#220: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:53 pm
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I will post my sav tomorrow hang on.

#221: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:50 pm
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is that a no?

#222: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:14 am
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I wont stand in the way if the rest of you want TO as human ...... had my moaning head on yesterday. If the TO are to be human so be it!!

#223: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:57 am
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then I change my vote to yes

#224: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:03 pm
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TO is too weak to do anything, so Colin can take them over if he wants.

#225: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:56 pm
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TO is going to loose Duraburg to Lithuania next round which is going to be major blow, he is also attacked on the north by Denmark and lost 2 important settlements to Denmark already.HRE is allied with Denmark, Poland is not friendly either so basically TO is surrounded by enemies.

If we don't have TO as human to support us against Denmark, game is lost in Denmark favour already as is going to be superior in few rounds and HRE decided to do nothing.Novgorod can't stand against Denmark so does any other nation because Danish snatched best settlements.

Peace offer Denmark declared is of course bullocks and I hope TO meister is not that stupid to have peace with his enemy. Denmark must be pushed off the mainland if we want play for some longer.

#226: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:58 pm
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I would also declare it's not true we are going to keep Mongolia, Mongol land will be shared and majority of land will be given to Poland to support Poland in their war against HRE.Novgorod is fair.

#227: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:47 pm
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I ask for TO to attack Novgorod with full force because gothic will not stop whining

#228: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:49 pm
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haha i got best land...so far polamd amd hrs have the best TO land and when yo take over mongols you will have some good land ans resources...dont try kid us gothic by making out your weak

#229: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:49 pm
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haha i got best land...so far poland amd hre have the best TO land and when yuo take over mongols you will have some good land and resources...dont try kid us gothic by making out your weak

#230: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:25 pm
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Statistics speak for themselves - anyone can look at the graph and see you are second only after TO. And yes you got best land which make you filthy rich.I'm beggar fighting for survival and I said Mongol land will be given to poor and abused Poland.

#231: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:45 pm
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gothic you have 45 minutes to do turn,if its not done by time football finishs you will be subed..over 24 hours and now over extra 12 hours you got

#232: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:04 pm
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Colin should do the sub no? I dont think that Gothic would accept Soul subbing him. Nor do I think it would be fair for him.

Go Spain!

#233: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:11 pm
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i have arranged someone to sub gothic if he doesnt post,dont worry!

#234: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:37 pm
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Novgorod subbed

#235: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:57 pm
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No.here is my file. sorry for delay, im moving out

#236: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:50 pm
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poland up

been trying to get photobucket and imageshack to load,must be my internet..up early so ill post screenies the morn..theres a few

heres the file the now to keep campain runing smooth

#237: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:24 am
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#238: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:08 pm
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Im moving out and I will be disconnected from internet for few days, since tomorrow morning most probably.Please don't sub ! OK ? ) Novgorod fights for survival and every rounds counts.

#239: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:10 pm
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how many days?maybe you can leave instructions for someone?

#240: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:26 pm
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Few days, instructions are not possible because I will have to do recruitment and build new buildings - just too many details.

There is free WIFI in city center so most probably I will be able to take my notebook and download sav LOL
Very Happy

#241: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:29 pm
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lol now thats hotseat dedication lol,ok mate no problem.if you dont manage to do turn we will wait a few days

#242: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:57 pm
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Well I might go to Acapulco for vacation and do same thing as Gothic XD
I might not go as well, still making a decision.

#243: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:18 pm
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Teutonics turn....

#244: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:57 am
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Re-Upload.

#245: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:57 pm
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Emailed the file to Saspi, can someone tell me how to put the file in a post?

#246: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:44 pm
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— Colin747 wrote
Emailed the file to Saspi, can someone tell me how to put the file in a post?

You have to click on "reply" so you get full options on your message including "add an attachment".

I had all the problems you are having the first time I posted my turn XD
I was in a hurry and had to go to a trip on that time Razz

#247: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:49 pm
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Also dont forget to zip or rar it.

#248: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:58 pm
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Novgorods turn

#249: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:08 pm
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Greetings from park bench

#250: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:51 am
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hre

#251: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:50 pm
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I'm finally able to do my turn after being subbed for 3 turns, so it'll be a relatively quiet turn.

#252: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:25 pm
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poland up

#253: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:08 am
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Will have to do my moves tonight. Sorry no time.

#254: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:05 pm
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#255: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:04 am
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wow a massive win for you mate,looks like ranger got to confident.

#256: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:03 pm
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For some reason I had a dream last night in which Soulfly had to quit the campaign and stopped the whole hotseat.

#257: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:57 pm
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haha,ill find time for hotseat Very Happy

#258: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:33 pm
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colin the turn is on page 17 cmon man!

#259: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:45 am
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Having trouble with screen shots for some reason, didn't need to take any this turn though but will try to get it sorted

#260: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 1:44 pm
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— Colin747 wrote
Having trouble with screen shots for some reason, didn't need to take any this turn though but will try to get it sorted

Screenshots get saved on tgas folder, almost same locations as saved games.
Just be carefull, because sometimes they dont get saved. I advise you that each time you printscreen something important, that you alt-tab to the tgas directory to see if was saved.

#261: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:14 pm
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That's not the problem whenever I take on it's taking it of my desktop despite being in game at the time

#262: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:54 pm
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— Colin747 wrote
That's not the problem whenever I take on it's taking it of my desktop despite being in game at the time

Are you sure? Have you checked your tgas folder? I also get ss of the desktop rather than the game if I try to use paint, however those on the tgas folder are the only ones I get from the actual game.

Also someone killed at least one unit of mine, I wanna know who did it. Im talking about the cav on the bridge.
Was it you colin or mr. gothic?

EDIT: I just noticed Gothic has conquered 2 more Mongol Regions and he didnt post screen shots of that, im not trying to nag here but its the rules no? We ought to have a fair game.Last edited by Saspi on Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:23 pm; edited 1 time in total

#263: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 11:13 pm
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use fraps Smile

#264: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:57 pm
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Gothic check my previous post please.

#265: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:41 pm
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I'm back, FUCK, I went through hell to get internet LOL but at least it is fast Very Happy

#266: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:25 pm
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HRE up sorry for delay

#267: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 2:33 am
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After somehow losing half of one of my armies which was hidden, I have returned with a vengeance. Luckily I had a large army and a good number of knights stationed nearby.

#268: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:46 am
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In the meantime when you kill each other TO and Denmark is growing ... Maybe TO should donate some money to other factions like Lithuania because TO has too much money and Lithuania stands no fair chance as Teutonic troops are superior.

#269: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:16 am
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Poland up

Its rumoured in many taverns Novgorod and Teutonic Kings,Queens,Armies,Men,Women and Children live each day in fear,many Danish ships approach hungry for blood,ale,new whores and to honour there king..Who will fall first??

#270: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 1:58 pm
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I wanna know who killed my cav unit on a river crossing last turn or two please.
Also Gothic, have you conquered mongolian cities? Last turn it said you had conquered Chernigov and I think another region, but you posted no screen of that so what happened there?

The TO Grand Buffon hasnt given any public declarations yet. I wonder if he will make his alliance with Novgorod public now...

#271: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:05 pm
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Ive got a question before I make any moves and upload turn. When an army is defeated and retreats does that army remain stationary next turn and it cannot be moved till the turn after???

#272: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:03 pm
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— Saspi wrote

The TO Grand Buffon hasnt given any public declarations yet. I wonder if he will make his alliance with Novgorod public now...

I'll give the exact same reply to this that I gave to Soulfly in a PM when he asked me if I was allied with the Novgorod scumbag bastards

"You know when I seen this message I was tempted to go down Gothics root of lies and deceit but I think a stance of honesty is needed in this campaign and would hope the gesture is returned. But alas dear friend knowledge is indeed power and it's certainly not free, think of this as a gesture of good faith, Gothic is stirring crap again he hasn't even been in contact with me what so ever."

As for Gothics plea for TO to give out money to other factions, you sir can certainly go screw yourself after stirring all this shit between TO and the other factions.

#273: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:04 pm
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Teutonic turn up...can anyone answer my previous question.

#274: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:22 am
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yes ares thats about right...i think lol..

#275: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:25 am
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btw colin,when i asked if you were allied...i guessed that,gothic never said yous were...just looked ovious as hes at war with us also

#276: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:27 am
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— Saspi wrote
I wanna know who killed my cav unit on a river crossing last turn or two please.
Also Gothic, have you conquered mongolian cities? Last turn it said you had conquered Chernigov and I think another region, but you posted no screen of that so what happened there?

The TO Grand Buffon hasnt given any public declarations yet. I wonder if he will make his alliance with Novgorod public now...

gothic or colin?

gothic you know screenies are a must,were already reminded early on in campain

#277: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:12 am
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— Colin747 wrote

I'll give the exact same reply to this that I gave to Soulfly in a PM when he asked me if I was allied with the Novgorod scumbag bastards

As for Gothics plea for TO to give out money to other factions, you sir can certainly go screw yourself after stirring all this shit between TO and the other factions.

WHAT ? You are Sir complete lunatic. Novgorod is innocent.Just admit you are allied with Soufly Very Happy

Novgorod never attacked TO not stealed your land - all other factions did.

Anyway, after peeing into game stats I understand now that TO as human in the middle of the game was bad idea.Lithuania stands no chance against TO and is simply dead meat.We need to balance game somehow, I suspect Denmark is not going to do a damn thing as he hell bent on attacking me. Money should be donated to Lithuania as he weakest faction with no alies.

How much money TO has now ? It was richest faction. Lithuania,Poland will be demolished in few rounds if we will not make TO poorer.Or TO should offer 'grace period'(peace)to all factions for at least 7 rounds so they could recover from all wounds.

I expected TO to be more reasonable not warmonger, seems it is not a case Sad

#278: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 8:30 am
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— Colin747 wrote

"You know when I seen this message I was tempted to go down Gothics root of lies and deceit but I think a stance of honesty is needed in this campaign and would hope the gesture is returned. But alas dear friend knowledge is indeed power and it's certainly not free, think of this as a gesture of good faith, Gothic is stirring crap again he hasn't even been in contact with me what so ever."

Bla bla bla thank you Soufly for kind words - so far it is your who is stirring crap by badmouthing Novgorod. You just try to mess up simple facts and they are : Denmark is most agressive faction in the game and main threat to TO (you already invaded his land and stole his property) we did not so please don't spread your false propaganda.

#279: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:53 am
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What way do you guys post screenshots, was just gonna upload them to photobucket but it doesn't reconise .tga

#280: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:33 pm
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— Colin747 wrote
What way do you guys post screenshots, was just gonna upload them to photobucket but it doesn't reconise .tga

I take PRTSC of the TGA so I can paste it on paint and change format.
Then I upload to photobucket.

EDIT: If you dont know how to see .tga you can see them with vlc media player.

#281: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 3:00 pm
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edit:colin fix your screenies and post ASAP,cheers

#282: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 6:42 pm
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TO and Novgorod have same enemies, yet they have not allied. Neither TO nor Novgorod have attacked each other even once, yet they are no allies. I sense something going under the water... but I cant tell what precisely.

Move your armies Russian.

#283: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:03 pm
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this needs posted so others can have there say,if theres no problem then fair enough....

saspi had some deal with ares,in the end ares couldnt keep his part of deal so gave saspi land..

now ares has sold saspi more land again..

i dont know all the details on this and maybe these guys can clear it up

to me ares is in a bad position and maybe has decided theres no way back so is slowly giving his good regions to saspi? if thats the case,seems abit unfair on other factions..deathmerhcant didnt give all his land to another..

#284: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:38 pm
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No offence Soulfly but I captured those lands so I should be able to do what I want with them. I fought hard to take them settlements from the TO and ended it up getting dry bummed ( without any lubes ) by my so called ally the HRE.

My point is this, Its ok to give gold from one nation to the other for example Denmark to HRE or vise versa this can also create an unfair advantage in the game. I havn't the gold to offer Lithuainia so in return for being a good neighbour and helping me out once or twice ive offered Saspi settlements that I no longer have any intention to defend...

I havn't given up and i will try my best to the very end and may even have a suprise or 2 up my sleave.

#285: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:16 pm
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— Saspi wrote
TO and Novgorod have same enemies, yet they have not allied. Neither TO nor Novgorod have attacked each other even once, yet they are no allies. I sense something going under the water... but I cant tell what precisely.

I assure you Saspi I am by no way misleading anyone in this campain and I am offering 100% honesty. I am not allied with Novgrod, the only reason I am attacking you is that when I joined this campain you where laying siege to one of my settlements. I am happy to arrange peace between us if that is your wish as I did not attack you out of my own free will but mearly in defense, PM me if you want to arrange something.

#286: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 10:22 pm
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gotta love hotseat Very Happy

#287: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:00 pm
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lol you gotta wonder how much pot these guys get through with the paranoia they have lol

#288: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:48 pm
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haha can tell you dont have a smoke,pot?? ffs fuck grass,hash etc in a few years time they will have tw hotseat as a cause of some sort of mental psychosis

#289: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:21 pm
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HRE

#290: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:23 pm
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If it is true Poland give away land to Lithuania the land must be returned to Poland. It's unacceptable to help other players achieve their objectives by land give away.I can also give away all my land to choosen player and it will make him win the game. Let's not screw up gameplay.

#291: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:37 pm
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Its ok to give gold to another player... why not castles. Besides Ive not give him all of them I owed him and could not pay in gold. People are just pissed cos they didn't see this kind of thing coming. I gave him lands that I fought hard to capture its within the game and allowed. I still have cities and castles and intend to carry on.

Think of it as a kind of scroched earth tactic .. I'd rather see my lands in my Friends hands than my Foe....

#292: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:49 pm
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I lent Poland 4000 gold that they couldnt pay because of war against HRE. We told Soulfly the admin about this and he said it was cool because it was a deal (I wasnt getting cities for free). Yesterday I sent a message to Soulfy with the following (amongst other things):
"We need to discuss HRE. I have bought another city from Ares that is pretty close from an army of Ranger.
What will your diplomatic position be with me if Ranger invades me? Id rather talk before getting into war."

I clearly said I bought a city. If we are making this whole thing a public issue, then I guess its fine if I tell you guys that I payed 2500 gold for the city. Ares has said to me and maybe some of you that he wont surrender and that he even has intentions to win the game. So then what is the problem with me buying cities? Ares and me have a deal that benefit both our interests, there is no iniquity in our deal.

As for what Colin says, you can never trust on the things a politician says. In this hotseat alone we have the example of Ranger and Gothic. So call me paranoid Colin, because if being paranoid keeps my nation away from plots so be it. I have my reasons to be very very paranoid the next few turns so you can be certain that ill have a watchful eye upon you. There may be nothing between you and Gothic, but the recent events make me think otherwise. And I even dare to say bigger proof of something going under the water is surfacing.

#293: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 7:07 pm
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— Ares0 wrote
Think of it as a kind of scroched earth tactic .. I'd rather see my lands in my Friends hands than my Foe....

This is a legitimate tactic that even the Romans used. Its a tactic used by the defender nation against the invading nation. It seeks to win an advantage over the invaders by forcing them to move to a certain area rather than to others.

EDIT: Also its a tactic someone who wants to WIN would use.

#294: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:14 am
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— Saspi wrote
— Ares0 wrote
Think of it as a kind of scroched earth tactic .. I'd rather see my lands in my Friends hands than my Foe....

This is a legitimate tactic that even the Romans used. Its a tactic used by the defender nation against the invading nation. It seeks to win an advantage over the invaders by forcing them to move to a certain area rather than to others.

EDIT: Also its a tactic someone who wants to WIN would use.

What actually regions you did acquire from Poland ?Last edited by Gothic on Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:22 am; edited 1 time in total

#295: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:21 am
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to be fair gothic you done similar in twc,if its part of a plan and ares isnt planing to quit then as a player in campain am ok with that

#296: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:24 am
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Novgorod is being fucked in this game from every possible direction ! Evil or Very Mad

Even Poland which was promised land and we had friendly relations screws me up Sad

I was suppose to give you land FOR NOTHING and you deal with our arc-enemy Lithuania ?! Evil or Very Mad

Giving him land ?! Evil or Very Mad

Nobody can be trusted in this hotseat.

#297: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:31 am
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— Gothic wrote

Nobody can be trusted in this hotseat.

keeps you alert and makes the campain more fun,cant beat sneaky deals when they work Wink

#298: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:40 am
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Nothing really changed much HRE-Denmark will win game as I predicted.You guys control more than 50% of territory and are huge force, I hoped Poland will do some real fight but he got caught with his pants down ( I warned you Poland, didn't I ? )

Only TO-Lithuania-Novgorod united could offer some challenge to you otherwise we shall be destroyed one by one by HRE-Denmark.

United we stand divided we fall.Novgod calls for musketeer pact against hostile alliance.

#299: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:26 pm
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Gothic, Denmark has supported me allot in this campaign while you attacked me and my allies.
You cant dream of having an alliance with me unless Denmark has a deal with the TO.
I foolishly believed that could happen, but after a little of tricky inquiry im quite sure that Novgorod and the TO are either allied or very close to do so.

I just hope Denmark realizes who their true ally is. Actions must be taken, and they will be done.
If Lithuania will ever ally with Novgorod it will only be after treason.

#300: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:38 pm
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What actually regions you did acquire from Poland ?

Most of them are the ones that were originally from the TO.
I also got 2 far away that werent, but they are pretty small and undeveloped.

May you answer a question of mine now?
What do you think about the HRE as a nation and ally of Denmark?

#301: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:25 pm
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Poland should hopefully be defeated shortly. I just killed his king in battle and now I am besieging the city containing his prince.

#302: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:18 am
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Poland up

#303: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:06 am
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#304: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:57 am
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I must say this hotseat moves forward faster than expected with fast steps to

GRAND FINALE :D

LET THE SLAUGHTER BEGIN ! Very Happy

#305: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:14 pm
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— Ranger wrote
Poland should hopefully be defeated shortly. I just killed his king in battle and now I am besieging the city containing his prince.

Isnt Ranger sortof breaking the rules by attacking King Boleslaw again? Even if its an indirect attack, he is still attacking him. I think the rules dont contemplate completely this kind of situations do they?

#306: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:53 pm
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Why HRE will not offer some peace to Poland ? Guys don't be warmongers let have some quality gameplay, Poland is already beaten on its knee, I think he deserves some peace agreement.

#307: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:44 pm
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saspi i think the king was in the castle/city? had he been attacked 2 turns in a row?

#308: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:09 pm
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That army came in as reinforcements, so I did not technically attack the army twice.

#309: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:48 pm
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In attacking the units stationed around the city you knew this would be a way of you being able to attack my king twice in a row. Technicaly you did not attack him but as I have no control over the AI I could not stop him being drawn into battle. Im intrested to know if you can move your defeated retreating army again next turn As you did last turn. I have not been able to move a single unit that has been defeated and retreated in a previous turn, has anyone else.

#310: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 10:07 pm
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maybe its to do with turn order?

#311: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 3:31 am
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I found it sort of odd that I was able to move the army, so I'm assuming it was a glitch in the game. It did not really matter though because the army was right next to my city and you were not allowed to attack it anyways, so I would have moved it inside the city regardless.

#312: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 5:17 am
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I think that what the rules say is that if your army is defeated you can move it only to retreat, thus it cannot attack another army if it was defeated the previous turn. Ex. problem between Gothic and Death:
http://celticalliance.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1209&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=90

Ranger attacked the same army against the rules because he fought against them in open field twice in a row. You can only do a second attack if its a siege battle.

Ranger says he technically didnt attacked Polands army, but even if that were to be true, the AI broke the rules by attacking ranger with a Polish army that had been previously defeated (see beggining of post).

So there is actually a sort of loophole-exploit on the rules. Imagine that instead of a 200 army outside the castle, Poland had just moved a 1k army there. Ranger wouldnt have been able to attack it because it would have broken the rules by forcing a defeated army to attack him.
However.... I just realized Ranger can avoid breaking the rules by sieging the castle with 1 unit, and attacking the army outside with the rest of his army. That way he will only attack the 1k army.
So there is no actual loophole-explpoit on the rules Smile

#313: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:57 am
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Poland shall be granted peace . He suffered a lot, let him lick his wounds.

#314: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:41 pm
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— Gothic wrote
Poland shall be granted peace . He suffered a lot, let him lick his wounds.

Here Here Gothic!!!! Shocked

#315: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:16 pm
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Lith up

#316: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:07 am
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+12 hours please

#317: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:07 am
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Who says Poland will be allowed to have peace? I'm finishing him off ASAP.

#318: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:06 pm
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Cheers for that Ranger!!! Anyway, i'm off on my stag weekend as from tomorrow Newcastle for 3 nights...my last 3 nights of freedom before i am damned to eternal misery. So I wont be able to do my turn while i'm gone .... dont sub me as i'll be back!!!!!

P.S Ranger.. dont attack Plosk as it will be the 3rd attack in a Row on the same Army!!!!! You sure do know how to bend the rules like Beckaham!!!!!!

#319: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:51 am
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I wonder where the name Gothic comes from.

#320: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:09 am
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— Ares0 wrote
Cheers for that Ranger!!! Anyway, i'm off on my stag weekend as from tomorrow Newcastle for 3 nights...my last 3 nights of freedom before i am damned to eternal misery. So I wont be able to do my turn while i'm gone .... dont sub me as i'll be back!!!!!

P.S Ranger.. dont attack Plosk as it will be the 3rd attack in a Row on the same Army!!!!! You sure do know how to bend the rules like Beckaham!!!!!!

nice one,i thought it was your mates stag do.turn will be left for you,have a good one

#321: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:25 pm
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HRE

#322: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2012 10:34 pm
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HRE has been subed,was well over 24 hours

Poland up

#323: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 1:37 pm
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Alright fellas, will do my move soon and upload file. Still feeling rough after a very hectic weekend.

#324: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 4:31 pm
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Teutonic Up

#325: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:54 pm
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Won't be able to do this turn until Friday night, up to you's whether to sub me or not

#326: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:04 pm
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teutons subbed, lithania up

#327: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:41 am
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The high priests of Lithuania have ordered a massive feast to be celebrated in every Lithuanian city, castle and town. The people are happy yet they know last time such festivites took place, many of them had to leave their beloved homeland to join an incursion that kept them away for many years. They wonder where they will be going this time.

#328: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 10:33 pm
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Its one of the many problems my laptop has, everytime I turn it on the date is reset to when I bought it. If i dont fix the date I cant access some websites as well.

#329: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 11:12 pm
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hawk said you need a cmos battery..

#330: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:52 am
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AI has subed gothic,was hoping death could do it.there was no one about to sub,i did email you twice and you know if you post and request extra time it isnt a problem.

HRE up

#331: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ranger,

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:06 am
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Yet again there's another huge battle. I might have lost a city but that's only a minor distraction for now. I just hope I have enough money to continue this war of attrition.

#332: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:52 am
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Poland up

I defeated a small rebal army,ill post screenies morn its 3:50 am...File uploaded to speed up campain

#333: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:50 am
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— Soulfly wrote
hawk said you need a cmos battery..

Thanks for advise but I probably wont get it, the problem really doesnt bother me as much to invest my time on fixing it. Ill make sure Ill have the date right for next time i upload my turn though.

#334: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 11:09 am
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Will post later...a lot to think about...Good moves Ranger.....

#335: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 7:45 pm
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Teutonic Up....

#336: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:24 pm
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file

#337: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:29 pm
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And off they went...

#338: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:44 am
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my password doesn't work - why? it works for round 15 but not 16.

#339: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:10 am
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you were subed,the AI took your turn.i had to change it so i could get AI to do yoru turn..once changed i entered it then hit enter and the AI done the done in half a second,then i set it to human control again.dont worry i didnt see anything

i was hoping death would sub but he couldnt in end,you would have probaly raged if someone else did so had to be AI

#340: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:59 pm
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gothic:

#341: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:30 pm
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This is not bad what AI did this is just fucking bad ! Im furious Sad

(( Sucks balls ! Evil or Very Mad

RRRRRRRRRRRR

Lithuania plays surprising well in this hotseat ... I thought he will be first to go but not only he refuses to die he is more powerful than mighty Novgorod !

#342: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 11:35 pm
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Well thank you, but now im worried there is some purpose behind that comment. You never have attempted an invasion of Lithuania. Now you have turned your attention towards me and my people, perhaps you are finally leading your soldier to that place you religion calls hell.

#343: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:28 am
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We are all doomed .

HRE-Denmark are superior.Only allied Poland-TO-Lithuania-Novgorod could challenge and push them off.HRE has biggest military right now and Denmark is superior in every way, we stand no chance until we all unite.

TO Lithuania and Novgorod shall have long term peace to recover from wounds. And we should all attack HRE - Denmark, they are way too powerful to ignore them anymore. There is no point to grow your kingdom Saspi as they will rollstream you easily, we must unite and stand and fall to hell together.

HRE is already knocking to Poland's door, who will be next victim of their agression ? You are wasting your armies on war with TO instead of having peace with him and helping out Poland.

#344: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:08 pm
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AI subed HRE

Poland up

Denmark prepares for the Novgorod army that advances

#345: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:43 pm
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Sorry lads, will post within the hour. Had no time, hope the AI has treated me kindly.

#346: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:52 pm
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I wouldnt count on that.AI fucked me like there is no tomorrow haha Very Happy

#347: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:01 pm
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Haha post your turn on time,if you cant do it in 24 hours request extra time like rules say Very Happy

i did email you twice and also contacted ranger on steam both never posted.If death cant sub it will have to be AI

Just making sure the campain runs good,gets boring waiting for weeks on a turn

No problem ares

The king of Denmark would like it known any alliance with HRE will now be canceled. The king would be interested in discussing terms with Poland and Lithuania you are welcome in Danish halls anytime.

As admin/player i wont even consider attacking hre for sometime as i have subed in the past. Ive posted in forum to let HRE know instead of sneaking up and invading in a few turns. I believe ive been fair and honourable as possible

#348: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:25 pm
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Thats the AI for you Gothic thats prob why its best to do your turn ASAP mate.
Agree with you Soul about not attacking HRE as you've took a couple of goes of Ranger and prob know his army and settlements as well as anyone.

Cant believe the English were here.....Last edited by Ares0 on Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:07 pm; edited 1 time in total

#349: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:32 pm
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Good victory against the TO, that could have caused some problems. The king will reward you.

#350: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:02 pm
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I hope those english bastards arent heading towards Lithuania.
1k gold reward for anyone that sinks that ship before army disembarks!

#351: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:14 pm
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Sunk already Saspi!!!!

#352: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:47 pm
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— Ares0 wrote
Sunk already Saspi!!!!

The 1 k gold is yours honourable ally. Send your diplomat as soon as possible and the payment will be made.

#353: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:50 pm
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Denmark is a snake. Not only he is most powerful faction but now when HRE failed in war against Poland he decided to attack his loyal ally.You waited like a vulture ...
While you Ranger wasted your armies in Poland Denmark quietly builded up, you let him grow and now face the consequences !

I encourage not to make any deals with Denmark - it is pointless. He will use you like he used HRE against other faction and then attack even stronger.Denmark is major threat to any faction in this game, if HRE falls to Denmark game is over for all of us.

Most probably Denmark will try to turn Poland and Lithuania against Novgorod, while we kill each other. he will destroy HRE.Then he will become superior faction and I suppose he will only need to capture Novgorod to meet winning conditions.

#354: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 3:23 pm
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like i said i wont go near HRE land for sometime,only fair

#355: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:48 pm
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Denmark has all the cities needed to win the game.He just need a bit more regions and he won.So Poland, HRE, Lithuania, TO ... WTF !? you have your little wars but at the end they are pointless because Denmark is very close to beat you all.

Denmark must be challenged.Now he will destroy weakened HRE and game is done. We must all go on war with Denmark to downsize this monster a little bit, then we can have our little wars again.

Since beginning of the game - while we all bleeded- Denmark had no real enemies because HRE foolishy alied with him.He grew his armies and he grew his economy.Now he will eat HRE and then Poland,TO,Lithuania and Novgorod.

We should all make pace and attack Denmark. This is only logical decision now.HRE and Poland please stop your war right now, you have bigger vulture over your head - Denmark. First HRE will be eaten and then Poland.

#356: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:54 pm
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Denmark hasnt attacked Lithuania, Novgorod and TO have.
Denmark has supported Lithuania in war, Novgorod and TO havent.
Denmark has been a rational nation, Novgorod and TO havent.

Until the former changes, Denmark is an implicit ally of Lithuania.

You seem to miss the obvious Gothic. HRE has been an enemy of Lithuania and Poland for a very long time.
So then, why would we reprehend Denmark for cancelling his alliance with OUR ENEMY?
I really dont blame Denmark, having a known betrayer as an ally is far more than I would have tolerated.
Yet Denmark did tolerated HRE for the sake of honour! Denmark could have betrayed HRE just like they did with Poland, and it would have been fair! But they rather chose the most honourable option by just canceling the alliance. Gods, they even gave the HRE some sort of formal armistice to guarantee the safe movement of the evil HRE armies towards the Dane borders!

The Free Nations coalition has always celebrated honor in any nation. This is why Lithuania gives their vote to invite Denmark to this coalition. If Poland agrees with their vote, then an invitation will be sent to the Danish King for him to consider joining.

Denmark may be a threat, but just for Novgorod-TO-HRE, not the Free Nations Coalition.

#357: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:23 am
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I will gladly fall just to see you screwed by Denmark haha Very Happy

Even if not, you will stay with your big Lithuania as big looser because you will not be able to challenge Denmark on your own.
There is no strategy in your plan. You want to ally with most powerful faction - to what end ? Denmark will be even more powerful and you will get screwed by your 'ally' Denmark.

HRE and Poland should make peace.All other nations - besides lunatic Lithuania - should prepare for war with Denmark. After Denmark is downsized we can continue to have our wars again.If Denmark gets HRE land game is lost for everybody as he is already leading nation in every way.

He is using thousands years old strategy "divide and conquer" and you Saspi eat from his hand like a little child haha Very Happy

Did you think why actually he wants to talk with Poland and Lithuania ? Let's guess .... the deal was ... destroy TO and Novgorod and gold will flow, haha Very Happy

you will get bleed and then he will just attack you easily when you will get weak as he did with HRE.

"Denmark hasnt attacked Lithuania, Novgorod and TO have.
Denmark has supported Lithuania in war, Novgorod and TO havent.
Denmark has been a rational nation, Novgorod and TO havent. "

HE IS THE GOOD COP AND YOU ARE BAD COPS Very Happy

:D

"Denmark may be a threat, but just for Novgorod-TO-HRE, not the Free Nations Coalition."

haha Very Happy

it doesn't matter, pal,if you survive or not if you are a looser anyway.You got no balls to challenge Denmark so you decided to be his underdog ? Denmark is threat to everybody as he is getting very close to win the game and defeat US ALL.

#358: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:50 am
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I would also add Denmark is not thread for Novgorod , it's threat to everybody. Currently Denmark captured all the cities needed to declare victory so he just needs more regions.

Most possible expansions path for Denmark is > HRE > Poland > TO > Lithuania > Novgorod.

#359: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:44 pm
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The Danish king would like it known he doesnt intend to take all HRE land,IF HRE falls to what ever faction Denmark would be happy to see Poland and Lithuania share the land.

Novgorod land however will be crushed,and turned into grave yards.

#360: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:48 pm
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Can only say sorry here,i fucked up with HS settings at the start.Admin has been set but anyone can use console not just admin because it should have been disabled.

Maybe we should start another campain,can even play a mod theres a few good ones.

#361: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:11 pm
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What does the consol do?

#362: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:21 pm
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controls players passwords,sets them as human or ai etc

#363: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:51 pm
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and why we can't play anymore ?

#364: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:09 pm
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we could,just means anyone can load any turns etc...

to be honest kinda hoped you guys would say that,campain has been runing well...

not like twc,think you fuckers can be trusted..

ill let the ai sub colin and if you guys dont wanna continue campain let post...

i wa sthinking we could setup another soon....

#365: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:12 pm
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TO subed

#366: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:01 am
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Well it is simple to check - everybody knows how many times he downloaded his turn, besides ... I don't believe we have people here who would cheat.We need some trust in each other.

Denmark plays this hotseat very smart.Basically he achieved dominance without single major shot.He dragged his main opponent HRE into alliance and pushed his agression towards Poland.When HRE got weak he decided to destroy him.Now he hopes he can do same trick again.He pushes Lithuania and Novgorod towards war and when we got weak he will attack.

I want major alliance against mighty Denmark as he is major threat, and strongest faction in any way.

#367: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:17 pm
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I'm cool with carrying on, I dont think anyone would cheat and besides what would be the point. Lets finish what we started and carry on playing the game in the same good spirit. Very Happy

#368: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:37 am
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Sorry for delay, busy turn. I forgot to change my date btw.

#369: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 9:42 am
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24+ I will post later today

#370: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:10 pm
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Lithuania shall be destroyed Evil or Very Mad

. Though ... your strong army with your king surprised us - we will back off to regroup our troops but we shall return stronger and in numbers and match you.Don't you dare to aproach any closer or we shall attack from any direction.I want you to give me Vielkye Luki - simple as that.If you will not attacks on Lithuania shall not stop.

Novgorod declares wholy war against filthy Denmark and barbarians from Lithuania.You both proved yourself totally uncapable to do any diplomatic decisions so you left me with no choice but to continue war against you until you are on your knees begging for peace.

Simple as that.

#371: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:21 pm
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i see you never took that small town after all,probaly a wise move..war it is Very Happy

#372: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:19 pm
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another twist in the hs,death will replace ranger...

#373: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:52 pm
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the New German Emperor would like to offer the Kingdom of Poland a ceasefire agreement

The terms are below:

HRE will return Plock - with all buildings intact
Poland will return Stettin - with all buildings intact

Both factions will sign a trade agreement and offer map information

Both factions agree to not station excessive troops in the border regions of HRE/Poland, with full details to be ironed out in further discussions.

#374: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:31 am
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great ! to see Death Merchant back though .... I think he was resurrected to get my head on plate Very Happy

#375: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:35 am
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— Death_Merchant wrote
the New German Emperor would like to offer the Kingdom of Poland a ceasefire agreement

The terms are below:

HRE will return Plock - with all buildings intact
Poland will return Stettin - with all buildings intact

Both factions will sign a trade agreement and offer map information

Both factions agree to not station excessive troops in the border regions of HRE/Poland, with full details to be ironed out in further discussions.

Butchers from Denmark and Lithuania should learn from great HRE master how to make diplomacy

#376: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:31 pm
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Welcome back to the Hot Seat Death Merchent.

The terms are below:

HRE will return Plock - with all buildings intact
Poland will return Stettin - with all buildings intact

Both factions will sign a trade agreement and offer map information

Both factions agree to not station excessive troops in the border regions of HRE/Poland, with full details to be ironed out in further discussions.

Before I can give you an answer on the deal you propose I need to know if You mean POZNAN and not Plock in exchange for Stettin. I am not aware that I have lost Plock. PM with the details Please.

Sorry its took so long to reply, i've been on nights.

#377: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:42 pm
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These are my terms Death, due to the previous HRE's emperor betrayal I cannot offer more friendly terms. If it were Ranger offering any terms they would be declined instantly and his messenger beheaded.

-HRE will return Poznan - with all buildings intact.

-Poland will keep Stettin . As compensation for the Human and Financial losses caused by HRE's treacherous invasion.

-A payment of 2500 gold will be paid to poland for the loss of it previous King.

-A trade agreement will be signed involving HRE, Poland and its Ally Lithuania.

-NO excessive troops in the border regions of HRE/Poland.

-Except a substantial garrisoned force at Poznan for Poland. Defensive purposes only after what happened last time.

-Ceasefire must last for a min 10 turns.

King Of Poland.

#378: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:26 pm
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I think the addition on 2500 florins is harsh, the loss of the king is regrettable but the offer is fair for both parties and you should take it for what it is if you value peace....The war seems even unless other parties get involved so further bloodletting would be pointless from my view.

Apart from that i have no problems with the terms above

#379: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:01 pm
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Ok Death Merchent I will accept terms for peace barr the 2500 Gold, there has been enough bloodshed between our 2 nations. For the sake of the Hotseat set the wheels in motion on your next turn. I hope you treat the Polish Kingdom better than the previous Emporer.

#380: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:16 pm
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We celebrate war has come to an end. Many swords shall return now home Wink

#381: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:25 pm
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aww fuck!!! i could be in trouble now

i cant attack you death so can we argee peace for a few turns? Smile

#382: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:39 pm
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HRE has begun moving all troops out of polish territory, we expect the troops in stettin to board the ship docked in the harbor this turn if you are serious about peace.

HRE has no diplomat, nor any city that can build a diplomat, so poland will need to send a diplomat to arrange peace/exchange of land.

I have no intention of attacking anyone yet, i am open for all offers of diplomacy.

As a side note there are no buildings in the city stettin, were any destroyed? As i believe the rules say you cannot destroy any buildings....

#383: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:56 pm
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Church and Port were destroyed when I first took the settlement. I checked with Soulfly first before destroying the port, as it constructs Ships was deemed a military building.

#384: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:52 pm
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poland up

#385: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:20 pm
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Death you did not read my terms correctly, I stated I would not be willing to give stettin back.

#386: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:31 pm
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Extra time needed, till Death Replies.

#387: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:30 pm
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Ah, i didn't read the terms correctly, then i would like to refuse the terms offered by Poland and continue the war unless Poland is willing to give back Stettin

id also like to redo my turn, as i moved my troops away from battle. Sorry guys

#388: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:33 pm
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ok no problem since you just joined,asap though Very Happy

#389: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:06 pm
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Turn redone, Denmark up

#390: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:31 am
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No offence fellas im out of hotseat, since it started ive faced 3 different players as HRE not to mention ive been bangd right up the shit hole by one of em. No point putting any effort in any more regarding quick and decisive turns. Altho you have just taken control of HRE Death it is not my fault you have fooooked up your turn. You were quick enough to point out the fact that a request for 2500 gold for the death of my king who i may also add was attacked, twice in a row was excessive, how is it you missed everything else.

Not being a bastard, but I get married in 10 hours. AI Poland or give the Faction to its Poyal Ally Lithuania!!!!

#391: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:17 pm
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ares there was a misunderstanding between yous,death thought yous had agreed peace and moved away..then it turned out that wasnt the case..

you have had a tough time in campain,but death is helping us out only fair he was giving a chance to know whats what after taking over,surly it makes the campain better for everyone if HRE were human rather than AI,were lucky managed to get a replacement for HRE now campain is fucked again.

have a good day,many super tennats lol

no problem ill try get a replacment guys before set poland to AI

Poland up

#392: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:51 pm
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Well im angry with Ranger, Gothic and Death Merchant.

Im angry with Ranger because from what I understood he lost interest and abandoned the campaign. You dont join a multiplayer hotseat to lose interest in the middle of the campaign. There has to be commitment.

Im angry with Gothic because he has also started to lose interest in campaign. He also ignored me multiple times when I asked to see his Mongolia screenshots. Also someone ate my army and I never knew who did it. Although he has been a gentleman enough to keep playing.

Im angry with Death because he gave up way to early for my taste and abandoned Mongolia when I had backed him. Even right now Mongolia is alive, and if I was able to send an army to support Poland I could have sent two right now to support Mongolia. Once again gentleman enough to sub HRE and other factions.

Foremost im angry with you three because I have high suspicions that you reloaded turns before it was allowed.

Ranger, Ares said you must have done it otherwise you wouldnt have dared to attack his capital.
Gothic, your turns took ages before it was allowed. Your assasins always succeeded, your armies as well with not so good odds, you scouted as well. Thats what I can tell.
Death, you must have done it to discover gothic´s hidden invader army. When you sent me your turn I could percieve it though im not 100% sure. Also I think you were the one who asked to allow it.

Im not saying this because im angry (although i am) nor I know if you actually reloaded turns, I just want you guys to know that this has been on my mind for a very long time in hotseat and that I also believe we should be able to finish a hotseat without any of the things mentioned above happening.

Im not angry with Ares because his behaviour has been that of a gentleman since the campaign started. It is unfortunate he has to leave the campaing but he is very fortunate of getting married.
I dont know why Death didnt read properly the message, if he was able to read the gold part he should have also been able to read the stettin part. My perception (personal) is that Death doesnt have much interest in this and therefore wasnt careful enough to read properly. I have the same perception regarding a message I sent to Gothic in which a very similar thing happened but Gothic decided not to re-do his turn.

Im not angry with Soulfly either, as usual he carries out his duties. Although there have been complains about him subbing they have been overcome at this point.

Im not angry with Colin of course, he is a busy individual and took the hassle to play as TO. However I have never understood why he joined. Who requested it and why?

This is my opinion and mine only, if you are joining a hotseat it should be because of the fun not to win the hotseat. If you are losing its part of the fun! Think before joining a hotseat, whether you will be able to play all along or not. I guess its easy to find players in the beggining of hotseat but it gets harder once it has started.

I had to take this out of my chest, sorry if I offended anyone not my intention.
Once again this is only my individual opinion. I will keep playing unless circumstances out of my control prevent me from doing so.

#393: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:01 pm
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BTW reloading turns slow down the campaign much.

#394: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:10 pm
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— Saspi wrote

Im angry with Gothic because he has also started to lose interest in campaign. He also ignored me multiple times when I asked to see his Mongolia screenshots. Also someone ate my army and I never knew who did it. Although he has been a gentleman enough to keep playing.

Relax

, WTF!

you are at war with me,vow to wipe me off and want map information for nothing ? LOL I didn't attack your any major army since many many rounds.

I didn' replay that turn because I wanted to show my good will, so maybe you will change your mind.And I'm angry with you Saspi as you deny any kind of diplomatic solution with Novgorod ! Evil or Very Mad

Regarding Mongols - I begged - them multiple times to have peace with Novgorod, and it was turn down every time even when Mongols where loosing. If Mongols took peace they would recover all their land now with help of mighty Lithuania. Now DeathMerchant is HRE and is ignoring my PM which makes me suspect he rejoined only to take revange on me ... NOT FAIR as I have enough deadly enemies in this game.

#395: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:41 pm
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saspi i had offered colin mongols,i think he was gonna take them but after seeing the mess they were in there was no point,so we all agreed in the end there wasnt a problem with TO being human..they still had money and in a better postion but isnt the super power it once was,i offered mongols that werent worth taking,was only fair if colin was gonna join it was a faction that had a chance.

#396: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:48 pm
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Well yeah but its in the rules that you have to post screenies even if you dont like it. I think that when you dont follow rules its unfair for everyone that do follow them. If someone doesnt follow the rules I wont ignore that fact, whether im admin or player.

#397: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:54 pm
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post screenies takes time, i will not post screenies for fight with AI when im totally numerically superior

#398: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:12 pm
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rules are rules mate,everyone else follows them

#399: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 7:25 am
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I will of course post screenies when I will fight human opponent or some bigger army but I'm not going to waste my time and bother with screenshots to show that my army of 700+ defeated 30 spearmen of AI.Seriously, I think you forgot what for are screenshots.To show that you self-resolved and not to satisfy your curiosity.It makes sense when you fight human opponents or big armies - then I will post screens but not when my huge army fights few spearmen units.

Don't pinpoint on not-important details which have no influence on game or whatever.

#400: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 2:21 pm
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Afternoon everyone...lets start with the bad news ... I'm Finally married to the Girl i've been with the last 13 years best year of my life was may 1999 Man utd won the treble and all been down hill since....Good news .. I wont quit hotseat, was a bit emotional the other night and didnt think before I typed and am sorry if I offended anyone... but ... I do agree with Saspi on almost if not all of everything he posted.

What I would realy like to see in future hotseats is this, if you cant be arsed to take your turn or bother to turn up on time to do it. Then instead of someone or a realy good player subbing them....they should only be subbed by the AI.

I dont drag my feet with my turnd and I know there a couple of others who dont as welll....but I just want the game to flow more freely....ive enjoyrd my 1st hotseat and I hope we can all do it better next time.

#401: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:44 pm
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— Gothic wrote

I will of course post screenies when I will fight human opponent or some bigger army but I'm not going to waste my time and bother with screenshots to show that my army of 700+ defeated 30 spearmen of AI.Seriously, I think you forgot what for are screenshots.To show that you self-resolved and not to satisfy your curiosity.It makes sense when you fight human opponents or big armies - then I will post screens but not when my huge army fights few spearmen units.

Don't pinpoint on not-important details which have no influence on game or whatever.

Even if unposted screenies are from 30 spears from AI, they should be posted because they represent important force movements in campaign. Even if you dont agree, the ones you havent posted are more relevant than that. Im referring to the siege battles in which you conquered many mongolian regions, including their capital.
I would think that conquering a region is important enough to require players to post their screenie.

Because you hadnt posted, I didnt knew whether you were going to invade me from south or continue going deeper into Mongolia. However every other player knows with how many armies im fighting the TO because I post screenies, I know Denmark was busy conquering rebel regions, etc. Its a disadvantage for every nation to give out that information, but if everyone else is forced to give that info then the disadvantage is nullified. When someones stops posting screenies every other player is in disadvantage except for the one that stopped posting.

Also regarding the army that someone killed it and I never knew who. Although they were less than 30 cavalry soldiers, they were blocking a river crossing so that a Novgorod assasin wouldnt cross somewhere.
Also whoever killed it could reveal an alliance, a hidden army, who knows! Thats why I think every battle should be screenposted, it gives information that makes campaign more interesting and fair.

Good to hear Ares is back.

#402: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:20 pm
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You win the game and you complain about long forgotten screenshots of completly not important fights with AI or your lost-in-space 30 units cav.You throw some accusations on other players though you have no proof.Just take it easy - I would understand you could be upset if you would loose but you win actually so get over it.

You are not perfect easier - you ganged on me with Mongols and Denmark with ratio 3vs1 and even now refuse anu kind of peace deal though it's Denmark who is major threat not me.You claim other players lost interest but it looks you also did as war with Novgorod is not going to bring you any closer to victory.You are making -strategically wrong- decision just to destroy me.

#403: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:04 pm
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gothic please just stick to rules like everyone else,you are no different,post the screenies when you defeat any size of army,human or ai.you might not agree but you knew the rules when you started,lets play to the rules and continue with campain

#404: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:20 pm
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ok

#405: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:26 am
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thanks

congrats ares and welcome back,please dl and do turn asap cheers

#406: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:31 pm
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Sorry it took a while. I will post screen shot later. Nothing major to post.

#407: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:09 pm
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#408: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 12:28 pm
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Sorry for delay, not happening again hopefully.

#409: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:06 pm
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+24

#410: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:12 pm
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you are well over 24 hours mate and lucky as i was just about to post sub file..you have 12 more hours ok?

#411: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:09 pm
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i will try post today

#412: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:50 pm
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hre up

#413: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:53 am
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I'm affraid I will not be able to post sav. on time as I'm very busy now so ...

I would like Death Merchant to take Novgorod which would make us even, OK ? Smile

I destroyed your kingdom but now I give you back everything and even more ! Soufly will give you password. Bring Novgorod to glory it deserves. Good luck.

#414: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:41 am
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I Dont want to take over another faction

#415: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:34 am
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cmon gothic you knew whats required when you join/take part in a hotseat you have played many..i get the feeling your loosing interest because of your at war with most of us,kinda like the britannia campain..

dont fuck the campain up for everyone else..

#416: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:34 am
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I didn't lost interest or fuck up campaign but being subbed by AI fucks game completly, last time it moved all my merchants, and turn back all my armies, left sieges and started to build some stupid buildings - I lost 3000 florins because of stupid AI because had to stop this buildings and silly recruitments, lost merchant trade etc.

Ok, let's make a deal. I will post today, ok ? just give me few more hours I will find some time,.I will post by 4 pm, but dont sub me AI. Sorry about delay but I simply forgot

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Screens maybe latter, nothing major happened, just Reval captured.

#417: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:47 pm
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gothic are you just taking the piss,given you more and more time to do turn...and after the posts about screenies you say maybe later...get the screenies posted...if your gonna continue to fuck about like this probaly better your set to ai,

#418: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:58 am
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Rolling Eyes

#419: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:30 am
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relax mate ) I said I will post and I will, most probably today.

#420: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:30 pm
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sorry guys, can someone sub me this turn - if not it will have to wait until tomorrow afternoon

#421: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:43 pm
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I will sub you, send me password on PM

#422: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:02 pm
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Denmark Up.

#423: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:09 pm
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post those screenies at same time?

#424: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:04 pm
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Right fellas AI me...Ive ad enough...cba anymore!!!! Me Soul and Saspi have put the effort in everyone else involved av took the piss...

Great idea hotseat, but finding people who give a fuck is hard......I work 12 hours day night and afternoon's have 3 kids been married and still find the time to post...If you cba dont bother next time!!!

#425: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:17 pm
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Don't exagerate, you missed nothing as I subbed HRE and did my best. Maybe HRE would be more willing to find time if you didn't hit HRE so much. I would understand you want wipe out Ranger as he attacked you but new king of HRE is innocent and you give him no time-out to recover.I know it by myself it is no fun to being gang-attacked. I'm kinda disappointed by low diplomacy standards in this hotseat. I suggest you have peace with HRE as sign of good will.
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It's because of these silly screenshots.Doing round is easy by doing screens is boring and takes time.Soufly could you ebalorate why actually we must post screens ? There is no logical explanation for this, it is ridiculous to demands screens for battle 1500+ soldiers against one spearman unit. Posting screens should only on demand where is doubt that army was defeated.

I remeber Saspi complained because I don't post screens he doesnt know how big my army is on the south. And you have no right to know it as it give you advantage .Want to know send spies or ask Poland to spy for you.Posting screens was -never- part of campaign but only security measure against cheating (to make sure battle was auto-resolved) Personally, I hate doing screens.

#426: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:20 pm
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HS takes time, we cant expect everyone to be able to do turns <24 hours, I do care about the hotseat, but not more than my work, friends, family etc.

Ares, i also do 12 hour night shifts, and have been in visiting friends this weekend, i just haven't had time to do the hotseat, thats why i asked to be subbed.

#427: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 3:44 pm
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gothic the screen shot thing had already been covered and you had agreed to follow rules like everyone else..i dont care if its one unit or five hundred post the screenies like the rules say,as you agreed to when joining then once again in one of latest posts.. id rather play and enjoy the hotseat and not admin this crap and try find other players etc.wont ask again

as admin and player i have no problem with players getting extra time to do turns if the post and request so we know whats happening..

#428: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 7:26 pm
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Poland up

#429: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:39 am
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Maybe we should deduct some florins from his Treasury if he does not post those screenshots?

#430: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:24 pm
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— Death_Merchant wrote
Maybe we should deduct some florins from his Treasury if he does not post those screenshots?

Can you actually do that?

#431: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:55 pm
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You Death Merchant are last to punish me Laughing

as you didn't even post your game and you want to punish me for screens ? It is not nice, mate Evil or Very Mad

IM NOT GOING TO POST SCREENS Evil or Very Mad

Simple as that. I promised, I tried. but it just doesn't go on me.Sorry.I hate it and when I hate something I don't do it.This is was reason I left all games on TWcenter, posting screens took too much time and was boring and redundant.

Stop trolling me about screens as there is no logical explanations for posting screens - it has no influence on game or whatever. If you want to post your screens -do- but I will not bother. Actually I didnt even look last Soufly screens though I could be interested. It is a waste of time and it slows down campaign. Screens should be only posted on demand - when two strong armies meet, or there is strange a powerful army was defeated.That's it.

The good thing is as I'm not going to be bothered about screens I shall be able to post sav fast and on time - which is what matters. I will post screens on demand though, if too large forces meet and there should be no doubt about my victory.

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And BTW the fact "these were rules" doesn't convince me as there were rule "no turn reload" and it was changed in the middle of game by Soufly. So rules can change to improve game xperience.

#432: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:05 pm
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the reload turn was changed because i believe some were reloading and some were not,it gave some a unfair advantage and since the rule was tough to check/prove it was decided that everyone should be able to do it so was a level battlefield..

gothic the screenie rule will stand,since admin is open for all the rule needs to stand as there are things people could do... am not saying you or anyone will but just in case...

if you refuse to post screenies then you will be replaced,i cant be fucked with this shite,every one else gets on with it...

#433: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:31 am
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— Saspi wrote
— Death_Merchant wrote
?

Can you actually do that?

Yeh

— Saspi wrote
snip

calm down mate, i dont want you punished, just want those screenies posted like everyone else...

#434: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 9:52 am
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screen

#435: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:48 pm
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Screens in a min.

#436: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:00 pm
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#437: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:41 pm
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Can someone PM me when im up on HS, cheers

#438: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:07 pm
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ok i will pm you

#439: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Colin747, Location: Northern Ireland, UK

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 2:37 pm
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Lith up

#440: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:15 am
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#441: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:03 am
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24+

#442: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:09 am
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ok gohtic,would be good to see it done in 24 hours atleast once lol Very Happy

#443: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:18 am
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#444: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:44 am
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I just got up and I'm in fight mood to bring glory and fame to Novgorod ! Hang on.

#445: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:33 am
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GLORY ! This screen is actually worth posting ... Very Happy

#446: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:03 pm
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Will do this in about 3-4 hours

#447: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:50 pm
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denmark up

#448: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 8:52 pm
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screenies

#449: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:56 pm
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Poland up

#450: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:16 am
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Just finished nights will post as soon as I get up.

#451: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:16 pm
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Will post the 1 screenie ASAP fellas. I havnt realy got time now.

#452: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:19 pm
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Last edited by Ares0 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:19 am; edited 1 time in total

#453: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 5:47 pm
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need before and after ,next time leave alittle bit of map in screenie..

#454: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:11 pm
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subbed

Lithuania Up.

#455: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:25 pm
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gothic what are you playing at lol, you have a cheek subing when you never do on time. did colin ask you to sub? do not sub unless you are asked, you got a fly look at at things by subing... ignore gothics post unless colin asked

#456: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 7:55 pm
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Well it is long overdue and he shall be subed as he didnt ask for any extended period ... seems Colin lost interest and I don't blame him TO is on deathbed and will die next round or another.

Situation is hopeless for TO and there is no light in the tunnel until it is light after death.

#457: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:28 pm
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saspi hold on till we here from colin..gothic you shouldnt have subed like that and you know it.. trying to get sneaky look at mine and saspis land?

#458: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:46 am
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I must say in hotseats should be strong 'no alliance' rule. 'Alliance' is simply screwing up the game :

-Denmark would never grow so big without alliance with HRE.
-Mongols would make peace with Novgorod and still would be in the game if not overconfident about alliance with Lithuania.
-Poland would have to make peace with HRE if he would have to watch Lithuania.
-HRE would not attack Poland so bravely if he wouldnt believe in alliance with Denmark

#459: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:02 pm
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ok saspi use gothics sneaky spy file!!!!

#460: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:50 pm
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Ok soulfly. The research our specialized investigator here in CA Headquarters has shown that Gothic has a particular inclination for... aahhhh not that spy file?
You mean his hotseat save then, Soul? Ok then my pleasure :P

On other news, the TO capital named Riga has fallen to the Grand Duke's armies.

#461: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:59 pm
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— Gothic wrote
I must say in hotseats should be strong 'no alliance' rule. 'Alliance' is simply screwing up the game :

-Denmark would never grow so big without alliance with HRE.
-Mongols would make peace with Novgorod and still would be in the game if not overconfident about alliance with Lithuania.
-Poland would have to make peace with HRE if he would have to watch Lithuania.
-HRE would not attack Poland so bravely if he wouldnt believe in alliance with Denmark

You forgot.
-There would be no strong force opposing to Novgorod's invading armies that expand at will.

Alliances are screwing the game for Novgorod because they are very bad in diplomacy. You cant take diplomacy away from a hotseat game because thats where allot of the fun comes from.

If you keep complaining about stuff so that you can have MORE FU#%ING advantage over the others, then Ill start to discuss about your assasins actions. I guarantee you that if I do that, you will lose the huge advantage those assasins are giving you right now. So please, stop trying to get more advantage over the other players by complaining about very logical rules. I think you have enough advantage with not posting screenies, using your assasins in a reloading turns game and acting as if you were the admin in this hotseat by subbing.

What you are asking for us to remove, its like if I was asking not to allow reinforcment armies just because Im not good enough moving my armies to have always reinforcements in important battles. Even if we didnt allowed alliances, people would still do it. If there were people in here that couldnt follow the no reloading turns rules, what guarantees that they will follow the no alliances rules?

If you want a game without diplomacy, then that should have been discussed before the hosteat started because having no alliances is a completely different mode to play. Its like if in the middle of a 2vs2 Med 2 battle you wanted to change it to FFA because you are loosing. And you had the TO almost as an ally, so dont say you were 2vs1.

#462: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:30 pm
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Diplomacy should follow strategy but it doesn't - it is just EMO thing most of the time.Of course you back it up because it benefits you.Why trying to fight with skill when you can just ally with someone and gang-attack him ? Like you did with Mongols.Now Poland helps you,Denmark helps you, big deal, I can also do like that and demolish any faction with help of gang members.

I thought how to make hotseats better and I figured out it's 'alliance' thing which gives some factions advantage or screws up others.For example HRE stands no chance because Poland is allied with Lithuania.Potentially Lithuania could save HRE but it's not going to happen because you are' ALLIED' so Poland is safe on the backside and HRE must die.

Denmark used whole 'alliance' thing to mislead and then screw up HRE. If there would no alliances from begining HRE would know it's not smart to throw all armies on the east and maybe capture some Danish settlements, it was logical but he didn't do it because he was 'ALLIED'.And when Denmark got advantage in the game by HRE doing nothing he simply abondoned him.

Whole alliance concept is simply unfair and should be removed from game.It is used to mislead some factions or gain advantage over other ones.In fact - left say it clear - there is no ALLIED VICTORY, so whole alliance concept is missed.

And you can't see difference between diplomacy with alliance.Diplomacy is ok, it is for making deals, one time deals but what you do is basically helping our or using other players help to gain advantage for most part of the game.

#463: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:58 pm
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hre up, screens later today

#464: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:48 pm
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I would like to add a new rule in which assassins are prohibited from the game.

Right now all my buildings that are damaged would mount to 5000 gold if i wanted to repair them. I also have repaired damaged buildings in the past(more gold). I cant even recruit assassins because gothic damaged that building (that by the way took much time and resources to construct) as soon as I built it (100% damage). There is no way for me to prevent this from happening other than destroying Gothic's faction. Even if no buildings were ever damaged, gothic could still kill my assasins as soon as they were created. Reloading turns has made the assassins an overpowered and very unfair agent in the game, so please prohibit them. You cant even regulate assassins because when a faction (Novgorod) starts with 2 assasins and can reload turns, those assassins will be able to increase their skill very fast and easy.

This has gone for many turns and I hadtolerated it, but since you are behaving as you are Gothic I just got tired of your person and cant stand this anymore.

#465: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:05 am
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— Gothic wrote
Diplomacy should follow strategy but it doesn't - it is just EMO thing most of the time.Of course you back it up because it benefits you.Why trying to fight with skill when you can just ally with someone and gang-attack him ? Like you did with Mongols.Now Poland helps you,Denmark helps you, big deal, I can also do like that and demolish any faction with help of gang members.

Diplomacy has followed strategy ALL THE TIME. If it had been just an "EMO thing" I would have allied with you because I felt pity of you not having any allies (I have told you this before, why cant you understad?).

You still need skill if you fight together with an ally, and I do admit that its easier to destroy just 1 nation but its that nation's fault that he has no allies of his own. In this case its completely fair that Novgorod has no allies and is getting gang raped because your behaviour was very sneaky, dishonourable and silly regarding diplomacy.

Lithuania never declared war on Mongolia. If Mongolia lost Lithuania's support its because it was an AI with no value as an ally. The human Mongolia could have been safed from the untrustworthy Gothic, but they decided to give up early.

And why do you think Denmark and Poland help me? Because they have love feelings for Lithuania or Saspi? HA! Its so simple to realize that there are mutual interests behind our alliances. We chose each other after some turns because we realized we had the same interests! Had we not had same interests, the alliance would have never been made.

— Gothic wrote
I thought how to make hotseats better and I figured out it's 'alliance' thing which gives some factions advantage or screws up others.For example HRE stands no chance because Poland is allied with Lithuania.Potentially Lithuania could save HRE but it's not going to happen because you are' ALLIED' so Poland is safe on the backside and HRE must die.

HRE was close from defeating Poland, and I know that HRE were going to attack me after that , so thats why I supported Poland. Why would I even save HRE, because Im Emo and I feel pity for them? OF COURSE NOT!!! Im going to destroy the HRE because they were going to kill me after Poland. Thats how Poland shares interests with Lithuania. Thats why Poland is friend! Diplomacy HAS followed strategy. Its more than obvious, im sorry you cant see that.

— Gothic wrote
Denmark used whole 'alliance' thing to mislead and then screw up HRE. If there would no alliances from begining HRE would know it's not smart to throw all armies on the east and maybe capture some Danish settlements, it was logical but he didn't do it because he was 'ALLIED'.And when Denmark got advantage in the game by HRE doing nothing he simply abondoned him.

When Denmark broke alliance with HRE that was completely circumstantial.

Its OBVIOUS that HRE and Denmark allied so that Denmark could attack Novgorod and HRE could attack Poland, I knew this since the first bloody turn!

HRE and Denmark were smart enough to make alliances so they would only have war in 1 front, while you Gothic invaded Mongolia asap without any alliance so you OBVIOUSLY got war in 3 fronts(worst thing is, you could have avoided it, but your terrible DIPLOMATIC SKILLS ruined any chances).

Denmark broke alliance with HRE because Ranger was no longer communicating with him enough for him to rely on HRE as an ally... I always worked to get Denmark on my side because I knew they were powerful and a good prospect to help me destroy the TO and Novgord, so once again mutual interests.

Anyone was a much better ally than sneaky Ranger and Gothic could have ever been.

Diplomacy does take skill, I didnt chose Soulfly as an ally because I felt he was a good ally, neither with Ares. Both were made my allies based on a strategy that was made with my mind not a hunch, and it has worked so well that you are complaining now. Your diplomatic skill was bad that of course it has now backfired on you, accept it. There is nothing unfair in alliances, if you have had more diplomatic skill then you wouldnt have kept attacking Mongolia-Lithuania and now you could be our ally, but you decided to eat all the cake in one bite. Alliances is all about increasing your chances to win, so you cant ignore them.

— Gothic wrote
Whole alliance concept is simply unfair and should be removed from game.It is used to mislead some factions or gain advantage over other ones.In fact - left say it clear - there is no ALLIED VICTORY, so whole alliance concept is missed.

Of course there isnt allied victory, only one nation will win. Alliances are made to destroy common enemies, so that you have higher chances of winning. Its very simply Math:
4 Players = 25% chance of winning
2 players = 50% chance of winning.

Further proof that alliances are not unfair is that Ranger did an alliance with Ares and he then broke it to betray him. Alliances arent written on blood, nothing prevents them from being broken. Alliances promote teamplay and talks with other players, if you stop talking to them or acting as a team you will bring them against you.

Thats whats its all about.

— Gothic wrote
And you can't see difference between diplomacy with alliance.Diplomacy is ok, it is for making deals, one time deals but what you do is basically helping our or using other players help to gain advantage for most part of the game.

Why do you think diplomacy exists for? Then ask yourself what do alliances exist for? Mutual Benefit.
Thats why diplomacy fails in Middleast, because there is none to be made!!!! There are allliances made there already! The interests between allies are more powerful than those between neutral or enemies, and thats why they have no reason to negotiate with neutrals, why would they choose the worst bargain and when they have the best already with their alies? Diplomacy without Alliances isnt diplomacy.
Its like asking a nation not to protect its interests! Or do you really think US protects Saudi Arabia or Israel just because they are nice emos?

So yes, making and keeping alliances takes skill.
And no, its not unfair because anyone can make alliances depending on his actions.

TO END LET ME REPEAT THIS, MAYBE YOU DIDNT READ IT:
You cant prohibit Alliances for the same reason you cant prohibit reloading turns. Its unenforceable.

#466: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:19 am
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I still think it is not fair to ally in ratio 3vs1 or even 2vs1 against faction. I would not do this because I know it is not fun to fight with opponent you got no chance to win.You double or triple your advantage without reason, it would not be a problem if alliance would be short but it last forever.

If you would play with strategy you would not allow Poland destroy HRE, it would make Poland too strong, you would cooperate with HRE or attacked Poland to keep balance.But what you do ? You attack HRE which has no chance to win or even survive against combined Polish-Lithuania attack.

If Denmark would play with strategy he would not allow to rise Poland and Lithuania so much.He would cooperate with HRE and Novgorod to keep balance.But what he does ? Have war over useless settlements in north, in fact losing game to Poland or Lithuania favour.

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The whole 'alliance' concept makes other feel uneasy to abandon alliance because of EMO reasons (aka backstabbing) even though it is against their strategic interest.Like it is now I start to think what is the point of me being in the game.I'm just advanced AI. No matter how I try I can't change game because you are all 'allied'.

#467: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 7:52 am
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ZZZzzz sick of your drizzle Gothic. Am gonna make peace with HRE just to make you happy and throw everything I got at you.Your moaning now Poland may destroy The HRE.....it was the other way rnd not to long ago. I negotiated terms for peace that were accepted and its not my fault Death misread them, i have nothing against him at all and would have happily kept to the deal I proposed.

I have not been the aggressor at all in this hotseat, i've been under attack from turn 2. Ever since then you have been playing your mind games. Your Empire stretches as far as anyone's so why do you keep complaining!!!!!!!

Yours is the only faction that stretches from one side of the map to the other ( N&S), you are in a strong position and you know it. You haven't engaged Denmark and have taken easy Mongolian territory....Will Denmark strike ??? Who knows!!

Next time you moan I will send The royal philharmonic orchestra To Poland to play there Violins as you type!!!! They love a good sob story!!!!!

#468: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:13 pm
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Fair enough.I declare war on everybody as the game is set up anyway.

What we have here ...

1. Poland and Lithuania 'allied' and controlling 2/3 of the map
2. Lithuania and Denmark 'allied' and controlling 2/3 of the map

HRE stands no chance.Whatever he does, fights, whatever he is doomed to loose.Novgorod stands no chance, whatever I do, build, or fight makes no sense, as we unable to fight against allied superior forces.Skill doesn't matter just stupid gang force.

If I would get allied with major faction I could easily destroy any other faction because my advantage double and other side is stretched and unable to defense.My forces barerly match Lithuania, and I'm suppose to fight also Denmark and maybe allied Poland.This is 'fair' fight ? You made out of HRE and Novgorod just advanced AI - unable to win or even survive.You also gave no chance to Teutonic Order as he was unable to defend from triple invasion and - no one is.

I understand it annoys you that I complain because it so easy and fun to score wins when other helps you out but you make this game pretty disappointing for non gang members.

Novgorod, HRE and TO are not needed in this game as we stand no chances against numeric advantage of 'allied' forces.

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HRE vs Poland was fair fight,Fight of honor and skill and it still would be if not your 'ally' who helps you out right now.Of course, from strategic point of view it would make sense for Lithuania to keep balance and not let be destroyed by Poland or even maybe sneaky attack your settlements which you left undefended but strategy is not going to happen because of 'alliance'.

#469: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:31 pm
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"even maybe sneaky attack your settlements which you left undefended"

If you cant see my settlements, how do you know they're undefended...has someone lifted the fog of war on this game!!!! You have no other means to see any of my cities!!!!

#470: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:33 am
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Well without the console disabled, Gothic can actually see any player's game if he wanted to. He doesnt need that player's password, he only has to create an admin password which he has done already otherwise how did he managed to sub Colin?

I tried to create an admin password to see Gothics 4th Turn to search for evidence of early reloading turns, but I failed to load the console. Could anyone help me? How do you load the console, because whenever i press "~" nothing happens, I have also tried other characters but none work.

Btw gothic, it annoys me that you are complaining about me having a FAIR ADVANTAGE over you because you have had UNFAIR ADVANTAGES over me and other players for a long time.

And alliances didnt screw up this game, Ranger did when he lost interest and quit. He forced Denmark to ally with Lithuania-Poland. You, gothic however were screwed since the beggining of the game when you managed to get into war against 3 factions without even knowing if HRE or Poland would/could support you.

You were just too aggresive with Denmark, and then tried to trick me into betraying Mongolia and with Mongolia viceversa. I knew betraing Mongolia would make Novgorod expand further and eventually invade me since you Gothic are or were such an indidivualistic and aggresive player.
I prefer team play, nothing wrong with that. As i said before if you wanted a FFA hotseat, you should have been said it at the beggining before starting.

I changed my mind and would like to put for a vote the addition of the following rule:
"Assassins can only make damage on one city every 5 turns and they cant attack an assasin that is inside a settlement."

Saspi votes YES.

#471: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:42 am
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i can tell you how to saspi but that isnt a good idea, even though its a turn past you still get to see your enemys land etc and gives you advantage even though thats not what your looking for, also you cant prove if someone reloads, yes you can have doubt

#472: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:56 am
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So far it really has been a 2vs2 war for you Gothic.
TO/Novgorod vs Denmark/Lithuania

I never attacked you with major force and neither has Denmark because we were busy with the TO. You have capture though 2 important Dane cites and I didnt captured any minor settlements of yours until you captured one minor of mine.

You could even say that even though TO is dead now, its still 2vs2 because you conquered Mongolia Gothic. Even if we conquered TO its not 2vs1(33% chance of winning at most) but a 3vs2(40% chance of winning at most). And with a 40% chance of assasinating one of my agents you still went ahead and assasinated him, right? So what are you afraid of?

By the way if you want to ally with Soulfly against me and Poland just so you have more advantage over me (besides the advantages you already had like not posting screennies, reloading turns, your assasins eating my money) then go ahead. I dont think soulfly will refuse, I guess its logic for him to get rid of me before I am too powerful no? He shouldnt be playing with emotions but just with logic no?

And I forgot to say that since your assasins have destroyed so many building on my capital (highesy income city) Gothic, I cant collect taxes but on the lowest for several turns now. Also I cant move 1 important axemen out there because my civil order is barely hold on 75%. Hope you are glad to hear this.

EDIT: Well soul if gothic killed one of my agents with a ridiculous low chance of getting him. Then I would count that as not logic for him to try kill my agent, and if I fail several times to kill it, then id say the chances he reloaded are fair high.

#473: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:21 am
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gothic feel free to sub death and POST SCREENIES ASAP.. he did say later today,all those posts since and still no screenies..i think he wants replaced lol..

#474: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:43 am
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your vote soul?

#475: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:55 am
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— Ares0 wrote
"even maybe sneaky attack your settlements which you left undefended"

If you cant see my settlements, how do you know they're undefended...has someone lifted the fog of war on this game!!!! You have no other means to see any of my cities!!!!

You don't need to be genius to figure out that you have thrown everything you have on HRE because Lithuania is your ally.This is how 'alliance' is screwing up game, normally you would have to leave one army behind to guard your settlements but you are allied so you don't need to do that.

#476: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:03 pm
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Denmark up.

HRE is doomed only God or marvel could save HRE from incoming destruction, no wonder DealthMerchant lost interest in the game, nobody likes to play game with no chances to win or even survive as he is unable to fight against Poland and Lithuania at the same time with no help from others like Denmark who doesn't give a damn and gave up game to Poland&Lithuania in favour to destroy Novgorod.

HRE scored little victory but will fall soon to superior forces of Poland.Making Poland-Lithuania spread from Minsk till Hamburg !

What is the lesson ? Never ally, when Denmark needed HRE to grow and capture Norway he was 'ally' then he simply abondoned his 'ally' screwing him like there is no tomorrow.

#477: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:38 pm
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poland up

saspi my vote would be no

— Gothic wrote
hre up, screens later today

gothic you done the turn still havnt posted screenie you said you would,you are clearly taking the piss..if gothic doesnt post screenie very soon then i think we should replace gothic or scrap the campain and start with with admin setup like it should be and with players who will follow the rules

ill be away for 2 days, ill leave gothic to you guys if he doesnt post soon replace or set to ai or continue as is lol

#478: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:25 pm
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screen

#479: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:53 pm
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sorry I didnt do my turn, been working nights, 12-14 hour shifts Confused

#480: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:49 pm
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How am I supposed to counter his assassins?
1.- I dont have any assasins of my own, Lithuania started with none (Novgorod with 2).
2.- I cant recruit any assasins of my own,Gothic's assassins will keep destroying the recruiting buildings(thanks to reloading turns being allowed).
3.- Even if I somehow managed to recruit one, Gothic's assassins would immediately assassinate him.

The only way for me to actually hire an assassin would be to build (with high risk of failing) 3 inns, which would cost me 7200 gold in 5 turns. He would then damage 2 of my Inns so I would then only be able to recruit 1 assassin which would cost me 500 gold, however that would only be possible if my cities are too far apart from each other, otherwise I would need 4 inns to actually make an assasin that wouldnt get killed instantly (+2400 gold).

So as a summary, If im lucky, I would need to spend 2400 in one turn and then 4800 in another just to have one assassin. 7200 gold total.
If im not lucky, I would have to spend 3200 in one turn and then 5400 in another just to have one assasin. 8600 gold total.

Right now the exact cost for me to repair all my damaged buildings would be of 4998 gold.
Add to that, at least 1466 gold of past repairs.
All the current buildings destroyed sum up 45% of decreased public order divided into my two most important cities. Capital = 30% 2nd = 15%
Adding all the turns, in which Ive had less public order because of damaged buildings, the following quantity is the one I should have earned:
2500 gold from both cities.
Plus I havent been able to recruit units in those 2 cities for several turns.

So, so far the assasins have cost me only by damaging buildings a total of 9000 gold.
And I would need 7200-8600 gold to recruit one of my own.
Thats would be at least 16200 of gold loss caused by 2 assassins alone In more less 12 turns. So each turn they would have cost me at least 1000 gold, and they can do much more damaga than that! However Gothic has moderated himself so I wouldnt complain. For the last 4 turns his activity increased, to damages that will cost ~5000 gold to repair. If he wanted he could cause me damages that would cost me 2000 gold each turn, which would grow bigger in cost due to me not being able to recruit units or having any tax rate other than low.

So Is it really fair I have to spend all that money just to kill 2 assassins? And while I spend my money on that, Gothic could spend his money on making bigger armies while mine get weaker. Gothic could increase his income, while I increase my spending and decrease my income. Well those are my arguments, surely they wont be enough. So vote Gothic, Death and Ares please.

Also assassins wars withouth the rules I propose, would make the game go even slower. Assassins are only this good because of reloading turns being allowed. If we were to allow reloading turns we should have at least added some more rules so that the game may be balanced. Assassins were created with the idea that they can fail their actions, not with the idea that they are invincible agents that can destroy whatever the heck they want. If there is rule that prevents assassins to kill family members, why wont there be one that will prevent them from destroying more than one building every 5 turns and another assassin that is inside a city. Its expensive and long enough to recruit one assassin already, so why make it even more harder with reloading turns and no rule to protect nations from overpowered assassins?

#481: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:34 am
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My vote would be Yes.

Teutonic Up!!

Teutonic Up.

#482: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:09 am
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— Saspi wrote
How am I supposed to counter his assassins?

You make me LOL Very Happy

, ban also priests, spies and merchants.You and Ares has been caught red-handed on abuse of fair-play rules and now you try to divert attention from the obvious facts by disinformation propaganda.

You play as two separate factions but you act as one - creating huge and undefeatable empire spreading from Minsk till Poznan - providing military, financial and strategic help to each other which leads to - ridiculous - situations like Lithuania having settlements in middle of Poland, like Poland sinking ships to help Lithuania, like Lithuania attacking HRE with no reason but to help Poland, like land donations and so on ... and even now Ares comes to back up your ridiculous demand to ban assassins.

#483: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:29 pm
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Ive got 2 assassins myself Gothic, I didnt say ban them but limit there use. I do use them to assassinate but have never used them on buildings as reloading would make it easy to succeed, if its not a rule in this hotseat maybe it can be looked at for further hotseats along with any other suggestions put forward.

#484: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:31 pm
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Lith up

TO set to AI colin doesnt reply etc and they are about to be finished

#485: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:51 pm
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Could you vote please, Gothic and DeathMerchant?

#486: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 11:17 am
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#487: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:19 pm
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Double stack Danish army feeded to sharks ...
HRE up.

#488: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 1:25 pm
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2 armies on 2 fleets surrounded by more and better ships than you..yet you get the perfect turn how the fuck did you pick out only those ships.. did you defeat and sink other ships,i lost 2 armies? something weird about that turn

#489: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:29 pm
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— Soulfly wrote
2 armies on 2 fleets surrounded by more and better ships than you..yet you get the perfect turn how the fuck did you pick out only those ships.. did you defeat and sink other ships,i lost 2 armies? something weird about that turn

I warned you , Novgorod will bite.No mate, you just made mistake and underestimated my fleet power.You lost two ships and one army second army and fleet is still alive.

#490: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:04 pm
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i thought the other ships were in range to support if attacked, you killed my pesants no worries

#491: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 8:50 am
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ok, let's continue ...

#492: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2012 9:15 am
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Agreed if Death is not available either the AI or a sub outside of hotseat should be used for HRE turn.

#493: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:33 am
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+12 Smile

#494: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:37 pm
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Denmark up

#495: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:11 pm
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Poland up

#496: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:23 pm
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Lith Up next.

#497: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:08 am
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Next.

#498: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:23 pm
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+24

#499: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:14 pm
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HRE

#500: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:38 am
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Invading polish forces dealt a defeat in the south

#501: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 9:23 am
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Poland up

#502: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2012 6:47 pm
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Lith Up

#503: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:59 am
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Turn.

#504: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 7:40 pm
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HRE UP

#505: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:26 pm
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denmark up

#506: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 2:21 pm
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Poland up

#507: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:23 pm
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Lith Up

#508: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:38 am
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#509: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:13 am
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24+

#510: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:46 am
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arrrgghh always +24

#511: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:11 am
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— Gothic wrote
24+

What's happening fellas been nearly 72hrs. Rolling Eyes

#512: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:15 am
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Site was down for some time Ares, it shouldnt be much of a problem to post now though. Maybe +24 starts after site came back Razz

, which would be almost over by now.

#513: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:41 am
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indeed site was down ... will post today evening... fasten your seatbelts gentelmen ... Shocked

I wonder how you discovered my hidden army without some dirty tricks ... Evil or Very Mad

#514: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:59 pm
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to be fair he could have posted like others had, might have lost post when db moved but we would have seen it, i also emailed him.. gothic being gothic, even if he hadnt posted by now the turn etc should be ready to upload

#515: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:33 pm
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I think his time is well up. Should be subbed or AI'd!!!!

#516: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:12 pm
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HRE

#517: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 1:00 pm
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More Polish sent to the fishes

#518: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:07 pm
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Poland up

#519: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 4:26 pm
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Will do move soon. Good victory Death. No idea why my 2nd Army didn't reinforce...it was right next to it.!!!

#520: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:49 pm
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The Real Captain Kurt (Sorensen....Widnes 1985-1993)

Lith Up...

#521: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:37 am
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Sorry I havent posted its my fault but I dont have time now, ill try to post as soon but I havent even made my turn right now. Hopefully after im back from work.

#522: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:55 pm
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Im almost sure that Ill be able to upload my turn in 5-6 hours. If you guys decide someone to sub me, let soulfly or ares do it. Whoever is going to sub me though, plz ask me for strategy.

#523: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:15 am
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Lots of work plus tricky turn, sorry.

#524: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:04 pm
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hohoho cant wait to see gothics reply, death to novgorod!!

#525: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:18 pm
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— Soulfly wrote
hohoho cant wait to see gothics reply, death to novgorod!!

+24

Nothing to be happy about as you will have to fall soon on your knees in submission to supreme power of Poland-Lithuania ...

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I will post it today (Sunday), sorry for delay, fasten your seatbelts gentelman, Novgorod response is going to be furious ...

#526: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:44 pm
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cmon gothic, early today please you have had days...

#527: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 4:06 pm
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Lithuania demolished by heroes from Novgorod ... this is response.

#528: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 5:38 pm
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wow, once again another perfect turn, saspi will be gutted

#529: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:07 pm
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Fuck Poland-Lithuania, I'm not going down without one hell of a fight

#530: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:09 pm
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extra screenies

#531: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 9:22 pm
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Perfect, perfect Turn Death....outnumbered 2-1 and still victorious!!!!! Rolling Eyes

#532: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 1:57 pm
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Yup, fuck Poland-Lithuania, what they do is ethically questionable in a clan game Evil or Very Mad

but ... It wouldn't have to be like that if Denmark wouldn't suck big time, the good news is Soufly is not going to win this hotseat though he could easily Twisted Evil

this will be punishment for his ignorance, his precious Denmark will subdue to stronger forces ha ha Twisted Evil

He spent 25 round building his empire just to get enslaved at the end haha Twisted Evil

#533: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:28 pm
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would help if death posted the file...

#534: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:57 pm
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Heavy swords vs militia....need i say any more, you can produce 2+ spears for every knight, if you really think im cheating let soulfly re-run the turn Rolling Eyes

keep bringing them, They will be all be annihilated and thrown to the rats..novgorod and poland outnumbered 2/3-1 but still holding their own.

#535: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:53 pm
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Poland up

#536: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:47 am
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Jose Pablo (Saspi) is talking right now:

"fuck Poland-Lithuania,"

I dont like people referring to my self with the word "fuck". Please dont take the in-game insults this far, at least with me. It offends me.

" what they do is ethically questionable in a clan game "

This is out of place Gothic, one thing is in-game role talk and another thing is provoking me by stating SASPI is doing ethically questionable things.

I am playing by the rules, if you have any problems regarding rules we can discuss the rules. For me there is no other way to discuss the rules than as ourselves (rather than the tsar or the grand duke) in a polite and nice way, otherwise Ill see it as a provocation and it will offend me as well. We have offended each other before too many times, lets stop that. I play this for fun not to get angry.

Also something that makes me very angry, and some people know this, is to be ignored.

I asked for voting on the assassins limitation rule, Gothic and Death Merchant never replied to me, not sure if youguys ever saw that voting. I want to make a new voting with the following proposal of rule: Each assassin can only attack (damage building or kill enemy assassin) one time on the same city for every 8 turns.

Repairing the INN to build assassins costs 1600, if you have 3 assassins with the previous proposed rule it would cost me at least 5300 to create one assassin of my own. For each assassin add 1600 of gold.
Also repairing my recruitment building on my capital costs me 2400, there are also many other buildings that have been damaged and that I cant afford to repair.Last edited by Saspi on Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:26 am; edited 7 times in total

#537: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:04 am
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Soulfly and Death, I believe your screenshots are incomplete.
Death's Postadam big victory doesnt show what kind of victory it was (clear, heroic, etc.)
Soulfly reval victory doesnt show Reval city being sieged, only land. Why show land while every player now has shown the siege?

#538: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:49 am
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saspi go easy, those guys posts werent ment to offend. as for the screenies you only need to show before and after results and maybe alittle bit of map, its never been required to show the city or castle. as for the vote, am not sure, if continued reloading is used to make a super assassin then i understand your problem

#539: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 5:54 am
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Am not accusing anyone of cheating Death. I will DL and post today. Had no time last night.

#540: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:34 pm
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There is not going to be any assassins limitations - simple as it is.You and Poland are winning the game and you have cheek to demand limitations of agents.Destruction of your cities is the price for war with Novgorod.You have been offered peace countless times and rejected so deal with the consequences.

Talking me about fucking Poland you should find actually hilarious taking into consideration my nationality, where is your sense of humor mate ? Very Happy

Chill out, relax, get a beer, whatever, no need to get offended.

And yes - what you do is ethically questionable - you and your buddy Poland are two players each of you should play as separate nation with it is own strategic targets, but merged into -one nation- giving other no chance in fight.HRE stands no chance, Novgorod stands no chance and I dare say Denmark stay no chance.Until you screw it up I must say you won the game already as you both control huge and rich territory.

#541: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:40 pm
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— Soulfly wrote
saspi go easy, those guys posts werent ment to offend. as for the screenies you only need to show before and after results and maybe alittle bit of map, its never been required to show the city or castle. as for the vote, am not sure, if continued reloading is used to make a super assassin then i understand your problem

I dont think Im being harsh, on the contrary I want to stop being harsh. Whatever intention they have, they offend me. Thats why I ask them politely not to talk that way to my self. For me its going too far, if you wanna have it that way for yourself no problem, but I dont want it that way for myself. From my perspective I have being too harsh with Gothic, as well as Gothic with me, I dont want that anymore.

I know the rule has been to only show a bit of land, I read your post before making mine. But if everyone only has to show a bit of land, why has everyone shown the sieged city? Ares has shown Gothic and you that I had a full stack on HRE city for instance. I know the rule, but it seems to me a bit of unpurpose. You are admin, so you know what is rule and whats not.

#542: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:56 pm
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I dont share your sense of humour Gothic, im sorry. I dont want to relate with you in this hotseat that way, although I might have in the past. You are discussing right now rules, Id appreciate that you discussed them as Gothic not as Novgorod and that you discussed them in a polite way. Also, when you talk as Novgorod Tsar, I would beseech you to try and not to address me in such a way that offends me. Your Novgorod personality is just too harsh for me. Please let me repeat this again: For me, the discussion of rules should happen, by no means, under your in-game role personality.

If you decide to keep relating that way with me, im sorry but my decision will be to retreat from this Hotseat. Anyone can judge my decision any way they want, I really dont care.

#543: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:07 pm
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Assassins with allowing reloading turns has made them an overpowered agent from my perspective. Too bad I didnt thought of this when we decided to allow reloading turns.

I dont have my personal numbers right now but assassins have caused and are causing much more damage than what they would normally do without reloading turns.

For me its very unfair to allow a unit that causes damages of 2400 gold per turn. And if you have 3 of those same units, they will be able to cause damages of 7200 gold in only 1 turn. Thats not even the quantity of gold you gain for conquering a decent enemy city!

If you think something else is unfair, lets talk that. But I, by no means, would ever do something unfair to compensate for some other unfair thing being done to me.

#544: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:34 pm
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[quote="Saspi";p="10541"]

— Gothic wrote
Your Novgorod personality is just too harsh for me. Please let me repeat this again: For me, the discussion of rules should happen, by no means, under your in-game role personality.

If you decide to keep relating that way with me, im sorry but my decision will be to retreat from this Hotseat. Anyone can judge my decision any way they want, I really dont care.

DRAMA QUEEN ? Laughing

You win the game so please save us this - out of nowhere - histery.Novgorod is what is suppose to be - dark force from underworld not pink fluffy teddy bear.

#545: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:46 pm
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— Saspi wrote
Assassins with allowing reloading turns has made them an overpowered agent from my perspective. Too bad I didnt thought of this when we decided to allow reloading turns.

I dont have my personal numbers right now but assassins have caused and are causing much more damage than what they would normally do without reloading turns.

For me its very unfair to allow a unit that causes damages of 2400 gold per turn. And if you have 3 of those same units, they will be able to cause damages of 7200 gold in only 1 turn. Thats not even the quantity of gold you gain for conquering a decent enemy city!

If you think something else is unfair, lets talk that. But I, by no means, would ever do something unfair to compensate for some other unfair thing being done to me.

That's bullocks. Your talk about assassins is pure nonsense, you have no proof and yet you throw accusations about 'perfect turns' and reloading and bla bla bla.My assassins are trained from round 1 and are very skilled and yet last round I managed to score only 2 - 25% demolishions.This makes you cry ? You and Poland win the game and yet you complain !!! Evil or Very Mad

This is war, so want it to stop how about not using brute force and make peace with Novgorod ? You should also complain about skilled generals making more damage than not skilled.

Nobody supports this nonsense so why you continue bitch about it ? Looks like trying to divert attention from what you and Poland are doing.

And BTW I think heavy infantry is overpowered against my spearmen, pleeeeeeeeeeeeease let's ban heavy infantry Very Happy

And Danish fleet is overpowered and caused a lot of damage to me, pleaeeeeeeeese ban Danish ships Very Happy

#546: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:47 pm
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— Saspi wrote
Jose Pablo (Saspi) is talking right now:

I dont like people referring to my self with the word "fuck". Please dont take the in-game insults this far, at least with me. It offends me.

Ok mate I will tone it down in future, I didnt mean offense

I think my victory was an 'average' one, i think its irrelevant as you can see the full kill count

I'd go for a total ban of spies/assassins in future, apart from spying if we are reloading turns. I've seen games where family tree's have been wiped (eliminating them from the game) in other HS games, do you guys want that?Last edited by Death_Merchant on Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:50 pm; edited 2 times in total

#547: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 6:49 pm
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+24hrs please.

#548: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:58 pm
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— Death_Merchant wrote

Ok mate I will tone it down in future, I didnt mean offense

I think my victory was an 'average' one, i think its irrelevant as you can see the full kill count

Thanks. I appreciate it.

I'd go for a total ban of spies/assassins in future, apart from spying if we are reloading turns. I've seen games where family tree's have been wiped (eliminating them from the game) in other HS games, do you guys want that?

I wouldnt go for total ban, its just too much for me. In this hotseat we actually have the rule that prohibits assassins to murder family members. So I think that if we have that rule, why not a rule that protects your cities from total destruction or that at least lets you fight back?

+2 buildings damaged last turn.

#549: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:03 pm
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Thanks for hotseat, I had much fun most of it. I retire from it.

I will see any reply to this as a personal reply to my person, and I will act accordingly.

#550: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:47 am
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is anyone gonna play this without quitting FFS saspi if its because the damage and rule theres others ways of going about this. what happened to your opinion about members being comited to HS once signed up.

gothics super assassins are taking the piss abit,

#551: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:59 am
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Nah, its not the damage/rules, I tolerate that and have for many turns.

I retired because Gothic keeps offending me. I dont ever want to play a hotseat with him again.
I would keep playing if I even had one single settlement, but I would not take part in a game with someone acting the way Gothic is. I just dont tolerate that.

#552: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:06 am
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And I want to ban priests they also do damage.You ban assassins ban also priests and spies.I also want you to ban your Lithuanian heavy infantry units - you can recruit them I can't , let's ban them.I want also ban for Danish superior ships which do much more damage than mine.

Reason for Novgorod having assassins is our armies are pretty weak so this faction needs some defense, of course you are interested in making your opponent weaker so that's why your unreasonable demand of baning assassins.You could build your inn and also make assasins but you didn't spending money on wars and now you complain.

I find it pretty annoying considering the fact I'm losing the game, so my assassins will not help me at all, they are a bit pain in the ass but what do you expect ? Maybe demand disband my armies so game will be easier for you.

#553: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:25 am
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— Saspi wrote
Nah, its not the damage/rules, I tolerate that and have for many turns.

I retired because Gothic keeps offending me. I dont ever want to play a hotseat with him again.
I would keep playing if I even had one single settlement, but I would not take part in a game with someone acting the way Gothic is. I just dont tolerate that.

DRAMA ?

You scored some defeat and now you look for a bogus reason to exit game (despite fact you have chance to actually win it ).The reason is - you got 'offended' Very Happy

when nothing was said to offend you - so you decided to screw up game for everybody ? Seriously ...

I also got 'offeded' by you suggesting all the time other's are cheating , all your talk about 'perfect turns' , turn reloading when nothing like that took place, pretty offending, but it is not a big deal, I'm not going to turn into drama queen and keep talking how terribly someone 'offended' me.

And now you even do some blackmail "... I dont ever want to play a hotseat with him again. " OMFG Very Happy

It's emotional blackmail mate, trying to press others to remove me from hotseats ? Not nice. I think I will get 'offended' Very Happy

Seriously ... you are overdoing this mate ...

#554: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:14 pm
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I have never wanted you out of THIS hotseat, on the contrary. In the past I have ignored many insults from you in hotseat as well as some rules you have broken just so I keep playing with you and not someone else. Voting in favour of kicking you from Hotseat has always been in my mind, but I have never taken any actions to do or promote kicking you from THIS Hotseat. This is not the exception.

Just recently, I think its more valuable for me to stand for CA principles, respect for players and rules, than to stay in this hotseat for commitment (since insults have taken the fun away from me as well).

You think its fine to say im bitching? To say im being a drama queen, a blackmailer? To mock me?
And when I had just asked you not to do that please. That just makes me sick.

I may have being too harsh on you in the past and I recognized it as well in previous post. But as I said, I wanted to try a fresh beggining with no more insults between you and me. Now Im so gutted with you, that I cant even stand thinking of ever playing again with you.

All I wanted, was for you to stop communicating with me in such a harsh way. Now what I want is for you to just leave me alone, I dont want to relate with you in anyway. Im not joking, im being very serious about this. Laugh all you want, but my anger has exploded for the last time.

Im not stopping this hotseat, find a replacement or AI me. Im not the first person to leave hotseat, hotseat can continue. If anyone decides to leave I beg you its done for personal reasons and not because of me. Im putting myself aside for my own good, because Id rather not make my problem with Gothic bigger and because I dont want to be part of what I personally see as a continous mockery of the clan principles.

#555: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:50 pm
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— Saspi wrote
I have never wanted you out of THIS hotseat, on the contrary. In the past I have ignored many insults from you in hotseat as well as some rules you have broken just so I keep playing with you and not someone else. Voting in favour of kicking you from Hotseat has always been in my mind, but I have never taken any actions to do or promote kicking you from THIS Hotseat. This is not the exception.

Just recently, I think its more valuable for me to stand for CA principles, respect for players and rules, than to stay in this hotseat for commitment (since insults have taken the fun away from me as well).

You think its fine to say im bitching? To say im being a drama queen, a blackmailer? To mock me?
And when I had just asked you not to do that please. That just makes me sick.

I may have being too harsh on you in the past and I recognized it as well in previous post. But as I said, I wanted to try a fresh beggining with no more insults between you and me. Now Im so gutted with you, that I cant even stand thinking of ever playing again with you.

All I wanted, was for you to stop communicating with me in such a harsh way. Now what I want is for you to just leave me alone, I dont want to relate with you in anyway. Im not joking, im being very serious about this. Laugh all you want, but my anger has exploded for the last time.

Im not stopping this hotseat, find a replacement or AI me. Im not the first person to leave hotseat, hotseat can continue. If anyone decides to leave I beg you its done for personal reasons and not because of me. Im putting myself aside for my own good, because Id rather not make my problem with Gothic bigger and because I dont want to be part of what I personally see as a continous mockery of the clan principles.

I said you are bitching because you are, if my English skills are correct constant complains about some non related stuff is called 'bitching'. You win the game and dare to complain about me fighting for survival, assassins-or-not going to save me and you know this really really well. If you want easy victory you should play with AI not with humans.You go to war and expect no casualties.
I would understand you if you would be badly losing, but you win a game so I consider your complains as bitching. Most probably you did this because I complained about you doing pretty nasty stuff - namely ganging with other players on weaker nations.Poland is strong enough to go on HRE alone and yet if it is not enough you help him out giving HRE simply no chance to defend itself.

I said you are drama queen because you are, if my English skills are correct, histerical behaviour, getting offended by no reason, leaving the party, and all this lame emotional blackmail is considered as being 'drama queen'.

You demanded to rules of the game to be adjusted to your personal favour - namely limitation of assassins - and when it was rejected you simply decided to be like little kid - 'if they don't give what I want I'm going going to screw them'

You know really well leaving hotseat is going to spoil game experience for EVERYBODY and yet you decided to do it. This is real reason for leaving this hotseat, you simply can't stand your demands vere rejected. Blaming me for some delusional 'offence' is simply a lie. You are nitpicking now trying to prove your point.

#556: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:57 pm
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saspi to be fair i also think you are taking it abit far.. gothic you like a good moan Wink

ffs we are all adults, we should be able to play a fucking hs campain without members quiting every so often. saspi you signed up to play, spoke about members who werent comited and quit, dont be quitting now it will just fuck up the hs for everyone else. get your finger out and get turn done

#557: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:12 pm
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I politely expressed my genuine concern for two things that bother me, being ignored and the use of harsh language directed to my person. And for that I was called a bitching Dramaqueen. And now apparently im behaving like a little kid, and dont forget about being a liar because saying "Nah, its not the damage/rules, I tolerate that and have for many turns." is just my way of saying: "'if they don't give what I want I'm going going to screw them'".

Who does he think he is to say im lying? Asking you politely not to offend me to then withdraw from your insults when you just refuse to stop insulting, is what you would call behaving like a kid? Tolerating for 4 months your behaviour to finally decide not to stand it anymore is Dramaqueen? Is expressing what bothers you nowadays bitching? I waited 1 month for his vote, no reply. And it wasnt the only time he ignored me.
His behaviour has been troublesome to me almost since the first day.

Soulfly,
I really think im a good looser and I also think im very committed with this clan as well with this hotseat but I hate being ignored and being talked in a manner that I find offensive to me, we have talked that before. Clan rules clearly state:
1. Respect all users of this forum.
2. Be polite and friendly, be helpful and friendly to new players.
1. Follow the hosts rules.

You may think someone is fat fine, but when you call that person fat when he has already stated that it pisses him off, thats not polite, friendly but a lack of respect to that person. You can tolerate it for some time but if it really pisses you off there will be a time when you will explode. Im leaving this, im serious, Gothic keeps messing with me, I just cant stand it any longer. Sorry, get Nighthawk to replace me.

#558: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:18 pm
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Gothic has his point, I dont deny it. But while he keeps expressing it in an offensive manner Ill just ignore him.
And no eye for an eye, but its just pointless to talk to someone that ignores you over and over.

#559: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:51 pm
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And sorry for all players. Specially my allies, Soul and Ares, i hope you arent quitting because of me.

#560: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 12:42 pm
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I concur what I said because you are taking this way over the top mate. From simple issues you made some soap opera drama (they are popular in Mexico, arent' they ? Very Happy

I don't consider words 'bitching' or 'drama queen' as 'offensive', maybe there is something wrong with your English dictionary Smile

they are bit harsh but you provoked it by your over-the-top responses.I'm -well known- to be hot-headed so here you are ...

This is what you expect Novgorod to be :

but this is what it is I in reality:

Regarding your disgraceful departure - believe or not - but world will not end and it can actually make game ... interesting.The big bully Poland-Lithuania has come to the end, and now Poland will have to be more gentle with HRE, and I shall be able to have some proper war with Denmark.HRE has chance to survive now and even fight back.There is also a small glipse of hope of survival for Novgorod ...

Let's play ! Twisted Evil

#561: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:20 pm
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"The big bully Poland-Lithuania has come to the end"

Now thats what I call being a drama queen Gothic ... Saspi joined me in one battle during our Alliance. Your BS is way over the top in this HS. As I recall I didn't start any WAR'S against HUMAN players so how can I be labelled a BULLY.

Sort your head out Gothic, your whining is becoming embarrassing!!!!
.

#562: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 3:02 pm
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Well you both did bully HRE, he was given no chance of survival, you were strong enough to defeat him alone and if not enough ! - Lithuania joined the party.That's bulling.

But happily there is honorable Tsar of Novgorod who wanted todefend the weak and the poor and support HRE. Though now it will not be needed as I will leave HRE and Poland alone for -fair- fight.Let's check what you really worth without Lithuania helping you out ...

#563: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 5:41 pm
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saspi/gothic for the sake of the campain and the other players in it get this sorted so we can play on, i have my thoughts on this but it aint gonna fix the campain, thats upto to yous. i have plans for more hs, lets get this one finished.

#564: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:56 pm
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Well if you really want it I can come back. I can swallow my pride, no problem. Forget about assassin rule.
Forget about anything I complained. Ill just play.

Whos turn is it?

#565: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 3:39 pm
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There is no 'assassin rule' and never was, just your out-of-place moaning.You provoke again ? Evil or Very Mad

... you have no right to complain Evil or Very Mad

as you and your ally are clearly winning the game.Your have best cities, best castles and biggest territory so stop whining.

#566: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:03 pm
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Is everything sorted between people. I will post once we are all civilized again.

#567: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:05 pm
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Gothic knows im offended by it, but he'll keep doing it, so I can either leave or ignore him will I play.

I really dont want to play with Gothic like this, Ares, but If either Soulfly, Death or you really want me to keep playing, ill do it.

#568: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:52 pm
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gothic leave it at that you made your point. lets get back to the campain

#569: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:11 am
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Continue Saspi, finish what we've started. Any gripes, rule changes or problems can be brought forward for next HS

#570: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:24 am
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I agree. Ill continue then. Anxious to see whats up with my turn.

#571: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:00 am
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#572: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:13 pm
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can we do 2 turns over the weekend? Very Happy

#573: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:35 pm
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#574: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:40 pm
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lol, gothic you will get teh file soon, please try do this turn quick!

#575: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:27 pm
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Sorry late, I actually wanted to do it blaze, but just thought about it too much.

#576: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:49 pm
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+24

#577: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:16 pm
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The game seems to come to end for me so I decided to speed it up : Novgorod declares war on Poland ... Come and get me.

#578: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:29 pm
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+24

#579: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:18 pm
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screens

#580: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:19 pm
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denmark

#581: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:39 pm
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Poland up

#582: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:09 am
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HRE King Dead!!!!

#583: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:59 pm
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Lol, I just noticed I have some sort of "Great Wall" made up with my forts on Novgorod border.

#584: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:28 pm
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Your wall is not needed as you have support of Denmark and Poland, if it is not enough

Game is finished for Novgorod as you made it pretty pointless, most fault is Denmark as you let HRE die and let Poland-Lithuania grow to undefeatable monster but your strategy is going to backfire now as I'm not going to defend from Poland or Lithuania - focusing all my forces on war with Denmark.Also all my assassin actions against Lithuania will stop allowing him to rebuild.

If they will use this good opportunity to snatch Novgorod best land game is finished for you Denmark as you will be unable to challenge them.You could have ally with me as was offered to you and we could have interesting 2vs2 fight.

You made this mistake third time now :

1) you leave HRE alone letting Poland-Lithuania take his land
2) you weaken TO letting Lithuania take best TO settlements
3) you attack Novgorod and again - not to your benefit, this time it is going to backfire.

#585: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:15 pm
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Since the death of the wise HRE king, the mad king has ascended the throne, surely this will only end in a swift destruction of the HRE?

#586: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:23 pm
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screenies here for anyone intrested

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mhsbxumg4wws4fq/screnies.rar

phpbb with 700kb max upload size... Mad

#587: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:07 pm
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ill do turn tomorrow, got called out last night near london... gonna catch a few zzz's

#588: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:44 pm
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massive victory in the war vrs mongor novgorod, all survivers were slaine

Poland up

#589: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 11:57 pm
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Will post sometime tomorrow fellas. (work) Crying or Very sad

#590: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:45 am
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#591: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:13 am
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#592: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:20 am
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Screenshots are from different reloaded turns, if requested can open saved game and get accurate one.
EDIT: I also took HRE village Screenshot later...

#593: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:33 am
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#594: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:39 am
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24+

will post today (sun) sorry

#595: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:13 pm
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lol i wonder why gothic is taking so long

#596: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:22 am
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My DVD is too scratched to be recognized as valid Securom DVD,I tried to clean it but no luck so I guess I'm off this campaign Mad

.I will have to buy myself second but it will take some time and there is no point to delay it anymore so you must continue without me or maybe somebody may take Novgorod.

I will go this week and look for some retails copies but I think they are still on sale otherwise I will must hunt down some second hand copy ...

#597: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:45 am
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Heres a link for a 1.5 No DVD crack Gothic. Works I have it on mine as my cd cracked.

http://www.gameburnworld.com/dl/dl.php?file=Medieval2TotalWarKingdomsv1.5NoDVDFixedexeEng.rar

#598: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:10 pm
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Thank you Ares, It''s for English version it will not work for mine besides I will not use crack or any suspicious software on my PC, so ... If I buy new copy today I should have it till Friday or hopefully sooner , so it's up to you guys if you want to wait for me or continue without me.

#599: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:09 pm
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I have no problem waiting.

#600: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:51 pm
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Me neither!!

#601: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 10:33 am
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will wait np, pitty theres no steam deals going at the moment

#602: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:46 am
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got my game ! Smile

) wil post save today

#603: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:56 pm
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nice one,thanks

#604: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:10 pm
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PM me when i am up

#605: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:48 am
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to good to be true, gothic you tease LOL

#606: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 12:40 pm
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Lithuania foolishy provoked me.Didn't I say I'm going to attack Denmark and leave you in peace ?!!

But you must have provoked me by trying to sneak to my borders ... and have been massacred.Only Poland and Denmark protects you in this campaign from defeat - be thankful to them.

Though ... I believe Denmark is going soon to show their real face and attack mighty Poland-Lithuania.He started to recruit troops awfully close to Lithuania borders ... Lithuania is wasting their armies on Novgorod while somebody will knife your back.I will not tell who but this king is well known for such kinds of acts ... I encourage Poland and Lithuania to keep their eyes open - don't let the victory be taken from you Smile

by sudden and unexpected ? Very Happy

invasion.

#607: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:23 pm
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Haha quite expected Gothic. No worries here Razz

#608: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:38 pm
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denmark up

2 forts destroyed with 20:1 odds, let me know if you want the screenshots for those

#609: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:52 pm
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poland up

#610: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:24 am
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I've down loaded the file lads but I wont be able to post till later on today at earliest. Sad

#611: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:22 pm
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#612: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 5:53 pm
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Been sick, sorry for delay.
Not a single Novgorod soldier escaped from death in this battle.

#613: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:52 pm
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Novgorod is finished, because of your unfair alliances you have made game pointless and predictable.

#614: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:24 pm
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— Gothic wrote
Novgorod is finished, because of your unfair alliances you have made game pointless and predictable.

HRE was finished turns ago, your late to the party Wink

Doing my turn now

#615: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:28 pm
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Denmark up

#616: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 6:51 pm
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poland upLast edited by Soulfly on Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:27 pm; edited 1 time in total

#617: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:17 am
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You were finished the moment Lithuania joined Poland in agression against HRE.They dominated the game.

This would not be bad actually and could be tolerated IF Denmark WOULD NOT collaborated with them - but he did.Denmark did nothing for like 15 rounds, he let TO be destroyed,HRE destroyed and now Novgorod being destroyed.

Fair enough.You lost game Denmark, now you fall on your knees traitor ! You have build you empire for almost 30 rounds to be defeated by Poland-Lithuania the bastard nations of this hotseat Very Happy

This is hilarious :D

NOVGOROD DECLARES WAR ON POLAND, your alliance with our enemy Lithuania is unacceptable !

#618: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:23 pm
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Stop being a drama queen Gothic...I had one siege with Lth against HRE. Dont over hype what the alliance has done to hotseat. Maybe if HRE attacked Denmark the game may of been played out diff. As it was he attacked Poland then the alliance came about.

#619: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:50 pm
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No mate, I'm not upset -as Denmark the main cause if this chaos- will be punished , he was so close to victory ... and dominant for most of the game and he now victory will be taken from him as he will be left alone against superior force.

This is justice ! Maybe in next hotseat will decide to keep more balance.

BTW I was not kidding about the war.My elite army south is going to aproach your eastern border and attack,I want some Polish blood for your collaboration with Lithuania.

#620: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:06 am
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Will make my post in the morning fellas, ive not had time sorry.

#621: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:05 am
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Lith up!!

#622: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:55 am
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Hopefully wont post late again, sorry.

#623: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:54 am
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R.I.P Novgorod

#624: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:34 am
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I shall drag you down to hell with me Twisted Evil

I would like to warn Lithuania, Danish heavy infantry army has been discovered hidden near Olysta ...

#625: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:36 pm
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Think I had already seen those Gothic.

#626: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:38 pm
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— Gothic wrote
No mate, I'm not upset -as Denmark the main cause if this chaos- will be punished , he was so close to victory ... and dominant for most of the game and he now victory will be taken from him as he will be left alone against superior force.

This is justice ! Maybe in next hotseat will decide to keep more balance.

BTW I was not kidding about the war.My elite army south is going to aproach your eastern border and attack,I want some Polish blood for your collaboration with Lithuania.

Denmark should have supported me yes, more for tactical than moral reasons. I doubt denmark can defeat poland-lithuania, shame I would have been a decent ally.

doing my pointless turn now

#627: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:45 pm
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Poland up

#628: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 8:37 pm
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Poland up

#629: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:57 pm
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Lith up!!

#630: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:50 pm
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Sacrifice! Sacrifice for Lithuania, our gods are watching!

#631: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:26 am
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Warning for Lithuania : Denmark has siege equipment in Windawa

#632: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:16 pm
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We trust in Denmark, they have proved their worth many times.

#633: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:31 pm
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This is what I suspected actually, Lithuania and Denmark are quietly allied against Novgorod.Denmark could attack Lithuania many rounds ago as he in perfect position for that but he decides to battle for useless northern territories.Lithuania as completly sure about Denmark intentions can move all their troops on me.

Fair enough, please set me to AI , thank you. There is no point for me to play this hotseat where weak are attacked 'in masse' by superior alied forces. If you set up game to be played between just you, let there be so I see no justification to waste my time to be some kind of advanced AI.

#634: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:09 pm
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Had Denmark attacked me I would have allied with you Gothic Razz

#635: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 9:40 pm
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Am gonna regret this probaly as it will fuck up the good position am in at the moment,but to make it more interesting the King of Denmark anounces trade and any deals with other factions will now be canceled, any movment on Danish border/land will be seen as an act of war and will be punished, you all have been warned..

#636: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:07 am
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But I would not ally with you Saspi, not because of personal reasons but to keep game fair and enjoyable to ALL players.

Alliance may be acceptable if two smaller,weaker ally against big bully but as it is not fair fight - it's execution.If you have deals that secure your borders it also gives you advantage.If I wouldn't have to keep watch on the north and you would have to watch your borders with Poland/Denmark there is no way you could so easily advance into Novgorod.

Your filthy rich Konisberg is awfully close to Danish borders and yet you didn't have to worry and keep army there as you trusted Denmark will not take it.If it would be so - you would not have your army marching in the middle of Russia now.

I appreciate Denmark try to bring balance to the game as it is way to easy for you now.

#637: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:01 pm
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gothic how can it be to easy now, when all along you have said i stand no chance against saspi and ares, play on..

#638: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:38 pm
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I think Gothics blowing this whole hot seat out of proportion, he's made out my alliance with Lith has been some kind of all conquering axis of evil was in fact apart from having secure boarders we have both acted independently barring one siege against HRE.

I'm sure if Gothic had been more of a diplomat and not a war monger-er he could have secured his own boarders himself. Instead he chose to spread false propaganda declaring war on nation after nation thus creating his own downfall in this game....

His propaganda continues ......

"You lost game Denmark, now you fall on your knees traitor ! You have build you empire for almost 30 rounds to be defeated by Poland-Lithuania the bastard nations of this hotseat" Gothic 07/11/12

"I appreciate Denmark try to bring balance to the game as it is way to easy for you now." Gothic 16/11/12

Make your mind up. Which will it be Gothic!!!

#639: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 10:44 pm
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I kinda hoped Lithuania and Denmark are not cooperating but they did and it was too much.It's not fight it's execution.

Denmark did nothing in this game basically.He killed AI Norway and then short fight with TO and then nothing for majority of the game.If he would play as he is suppose to play it would be all different right now, HRE would be still in game and Poland and Lithuania would not grow like a cancer.Denmark got completly obssessed with desctruction of Novgorod, he gave up gameplay for that.

I encourage Poland and Lithuania to attack me with full force the very next round and end this hotseat with your victory, there is really not much point to play it any longer.I moved all my forces north and I'm going to battle Denmark so Novgorod land is all yours.Consider this my last wish, lol Very Happy

#640: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:38 am
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so be it,upload the file

we will discuss next HS soon

#641: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:41 am
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I did it's HRE now

#642: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:27 pm
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Yeah right, like you said you would do last turn!

Its so irrational that you critize everyone else´s way of playing the game and blame them as well because of you losing the game. Are you trying to tell me that you didnt had a single chance to prevent your defeat? Well if since the start of the game you weren't willing to make any alliaces Id believe you didnt had any chances, but you tried making an alliance with Soulfly as well as with my nation. Alliances make a game balanced because each nation acts according to its PERSONAL interest. Thanks to your actions it was in everyones best personal interest to destroy an unpredictable warmongering nation that was threatening our borders called Novgorod. You always acted like the most powerful nation around, you never gave away anything to Lithuania, it was always Novgorod that had to recieve the immediate benefit out of every deal.
You ALONE destroyed one ENTIRE nation, dont you dare forget that!!! You insulted our nations, over and over again. You sent agents to cripple Lithuania economy! You were a hell of a beast!!! If denmark hadnt attacked you, you would have become a much greater monster than Lithuania would ever have.
So yeah, stop critizing Denmark decision and trying to distort the truth for him! Soulfly, it has only been Gothic who has portrayed Denmark vs Poland-Lithuania situation. You know that im willing to talk and I have tried to do so for the last turns, but im cautious you know that. Gothic still has Mongolia as part of his territory, and still has power but just until now, on the bloody 31 turn, has Lithuania finally managed to destroy his armies. Gothic says he wouldnt ally with me if you attacked me, but he has said before he would act some way and then act differently. It is known he is unpredictable and untrustworthy. If we dont finish him now that he is exposed, then he will come back from the dead strong as ever! Dont let him have his way...

#643: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:33 pm
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BTW, death could you please do your turn? I wouldnt like the AI to do it because I want to test something from the game. Thanks mate.

#644: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:14 am
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You achieved anything in this game only because you got full support from other players namely Mongols,Denmark and Poland.If you would have to use your own skills and resources you wouldn't be even close to what you are right now so there is nothing to proud about.

You didn't play much as independent nation, just collaborated in unfair wars against Novgorod,TO and HRE in 2vs1 3vs1 ratio.You got not balls to attack Denmark or Poland or even Novgorod in 1vs1 as you would have to start to fight actually with your own skills and resources.

The game is finished at least for me now as I'm going to front attack all of you, and then you can play on.If you want to be at least once fair against your opponent in this game you have to break your alliance with Poland as Denmark stands no chance alone.

#645: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 12:26 pm
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I am pragmatic Gothic what can I say?

With all those enemies you have made for your Nation I hope Novgorod people value more their strength as a nation than surviving, because Lithuanian people value their survival and security above showing off and displaying individual prowess.

#646: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:22 pm
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Denmark

#647: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:07 pm
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ill get turn finished the night after football

#648: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:32 pm
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poland up

#649: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:32 pm
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Ill do my post in the morning fellas, ive only got the onscreen kyboard at the minute as my usb keyboard is knackered. I cant use it to type my password in on kingdoms, sorry.

#650: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 9:16 am
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#651: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:44 pm
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#652: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2012 9:38 am
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HRE

#653: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Death_Merchant,

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:04 pm
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Denmark

#654: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:39 pm
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poland up

#655: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:55 am
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So it begins, thought I would have had a bit more time to prepare Soulfly .... Denmark the 3rd Nation to declare war on Poland!!!!

Will do my move tomorrow, not long finished work so no time.........

#656: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:11 am
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lith up!!

#657: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:39 am
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What did you did Gothic on your cities?

#658: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 7:14 pm
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#659: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:12 am
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Denmark

#660: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:13 pm
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poland up, ill be dead soon, novgorod moves north with 2 huge armies

#661: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:44 pm
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Fall back and make time Soulfly, he cant chase you for ever since im on his backyard.

EDIT: I also got armies on the west/north that could stop his advance, we just have to avoid those 2 armies and force him to separate them and stretch. He will lose many more cities than we will.

#662: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:05 pm
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#663: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:55 pm
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#664: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:33 am
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— Saspi wrote
EDIT: I also got armies on the west/north that could stop his advance, we just have to avoid those 2 armies and force him to separate them and stretch. He will lose many more cities than we will.

The strongest faction in the game totally needs support against weakest one Smile

Last edited by Gothic on Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:12 pm; edited 1 time in total

#665: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:00 am
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Narva captured, screens later.

Denmark up

#666: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:33 pm
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Poland up

dont think i wanna see what happens next Sad

#667: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:20 am
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Do my move today when I finish work. You took the bait Soul and killed off my shitty King!!!!! Razz

#668: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 6:49 pm
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i guess am in trouble then Sad

#669: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:38 pm
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#670: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:47 pm
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well played

#671: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:16 pm
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#672: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:26 pm
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Narva recaptured.

#673: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:43 pm
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very strange thing has happened, i have a hiden army with a general that had 5 loyalty that has changed to rebals, any ideas?

#674: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:01 pm
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No mate sorry, i've had units in this hotseat that have changed to Rebels but only units without a general present..

#675: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:22 am
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Not me. I also lost a big force which pissed me off but it had no general.

#676: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:51 am
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ok ill get turn done later when back, it means am deff fucked.. saspi just aswell you recruited alot,should deal with gothic easy

#677: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:02 pm
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poland up

#678: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:22 am
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I will post screenies later when i finish work. just trying to keep game flowing. Nothing major, 2 forts defeated and a ship battle.

#679: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:10 pm
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you forgot to upload?

#680: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:47 pm
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Sorry fellas, screenies will be up next!!!!

#681: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:13 pm
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Looks a lot but only very small battles.
Sorry bout the delay fellas, save file should have been with post. Only finished work 1/2 hour ago so couldn't upload sooner. Crying or Very sad

#682: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:56 pm
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#683: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:36 pm
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Denmark Up

#684: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:53 pm
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I would like Novgorod to be set to AI.I can block Denmark till the very end in north but it will be better for him if AI will take over Novgorod so he could capture my land.

#685: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:44 pm
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Poland up

Gothic you should play on till the end!

#686: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:53 pm
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#687: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:04 pm
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#688: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:43 am
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I appreciate Poland and Denmark decided to give me some time out but it is too late.I have been attacked in 3vs1 ratio, lost 80% of territory and economy is like -5000 in debt by now.I will submit my rounds but don't expect much Evil or Very Mad

#689: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:49 am
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ok, thanks for playing on.

#690: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 8:58 am
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Denmark up

#691: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:23 pm
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Poland up

#692: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:02 pm
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Will post soon. Not had chance sorry.

#693: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:57 am
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I have 2 very minor battles to post. Will do it later.

#694: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:14 am
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you took my town, arrrgghh

#695: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:18 pm
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Haha No mate....Nothing taken!!!

#696: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 9:05 pm
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#697: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:06 pm
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Denmark Up

#698: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:00 am
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ill get turn done asap, saspi is playing on

#699: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:59 pm
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Poland up

#700: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:11 am
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#701: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:54 pm
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Soon...

#702: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:58 am
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Sorry for delay, holidays kept me away from my med2 pc.

#703: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:13 pm
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Denmark Up

#704: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:51 am
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Poland up

#705: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:24 pm
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Am sorry for the delay lads, my trusty Thermaltake power supply has decided to call it a day. Ive ordered a replacement hopefully be here by Tues. If i manage to steal ( sorry borrow) one from work, i will fit it tomorrow and do my turn...

#706: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:26 pm
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No problem, no hurry

#707: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:59 pm
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#708: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:11 pm
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Hope you didnt mind its rar. I can always download a zipper again.

#709: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:08 am
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hold on, ares thats bull... i cant attack you in port yet your allowed to move that fleet out free... cmon man! if ares moved a fleet out the attacked port without attacking my ships first then id like him to redo his turn (read rules). only fair

#710: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:04 am
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I will re-do turn today, just an oversight from me. If they are the rules they are the rules. Wont make that much diff to my turn anyway.

#711: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:43 pm
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ok mate thanks

#712: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:57 pm
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Here's the new game file. Siege and attack on settlement as above. NO ATTACK made on fleet!!!!!!

#713: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:01 am
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Denmark is blockading a Lithuanian Port, now we know why their King requested us not to build a navy...
We are officially joining Poland against Denmark.

#714: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:18 pm
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Poland welcomes Lithuania and its people in there WAR against The warmongering nation of Denmark!!!! Twisted Evil

#715: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 12:55 pm
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— Saspi wrote
Denmark is blockading a Lithuanian Port, now we know why their King requested us not to build a navy...
We are officially joining Poland against Denmark.

Poland has huge advantage against Denmark and yet you support him ! After Denmark is done you will have to submit and accept your defeat without single shot as there is no allied victory in this game.

Basically, what you guys do is very close to cheating as it is round 39 and you never had war against each other.I'm disappointed with this hotseat as it turned into rollsteaming.The fact that you swapped land,money and attacked in a gang other players is pretty not fair play.

Lithuania should joined war with Denmark against Poland long time ago, but you must have some balls to do it.Seems Lithuania doesn't know how to play this game.Actually it is very simple - you play for victory - not to support other players like you supported Mongols,Denmark and now Poland against others.

What is your purpose in this game ? You strategy is not victory but survival which is FAIL.

#716: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 1:26 pm
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Denmark Up

#717: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:42 pm
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— Gothic wrote

Poland has huge advantage against Denmark and yet you support him ! After Denmark is done you will have to submit and accept your defeat without single shot as there is no allied victory in this game.

If Poland has huge advantage why has Denmark kept 2 full stacks next to my borders for various turns while at war with Poland? And yes, there is obviously no allied victory in this game, only 1 nation will win. That had already been stated in the past by me.

Basically, what you guys do is very close to cheating as it is round 39 and you never had war against each other.I'm disappointed with this hotseat as it turned into rollsteaming.The fact that you swapped land,money and attacked in a gang other players is pretty not fair play.

So how then is an alliance supposed to work without it being similar to cheating? Does my nation has to end their alliances whenever Gothic judges its time to do so? Mate, im here to win this game, and following that objective, it is wisest of me not to fall into your provocations / tirades. The loony Tsar diplomatic decisions ultimately resulted in the fall of his government in many cities, which by the way are happier under my government, so dont tell me when is the best time for my government to end an alliance.

Lithuania should joined war with Denmark against Poland long time ago, but you must have some balls to do it.Seems Lithuania doesn't know how to play this game.Actually it is very simple - you play for victory - not to support other players like you supported Mongols,Denmark and now Poland against others.

So I lack balls for not attacking Poland? Ha! If the loony Tsar is saying so, then it means that if I attacked Poland I would be lacking brains! Since, for the Loony Tsar, having balls means to use brute force without thinking beforehand, braindead! Im playing for a realistic victory, Novgorod is playing for a braindead heroic victory!

What is your purpose in this game ? You strategy is not victory but survival which is FAIL.

Im here to win, and before thinking of victory you have to think of survival. Or do you really think you can win dead? I bet you do, after all you made every bordering nation attack you.

Before victory comes survival. You cant have a real and lasting victory if you havent secured survival first. Again, a victory is of no use if you become dead because of it afterwards. Novgorod went for a ballsie victory against 3 nations without thinking of survival, and now Novgorod is gonna die.
My purpose is to win, only one player wins. There is obviously no second place. So its best for me if I dont listen to a wacko walking dead man.

#718: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:49 am
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Poland gave you land again, didn't he? Your land graph is spiking despite not grabbing new territory in the battle... Which is pretty unacceptable.

Denmark stands 0% chances and it's just execution.I suppose Denmark lost patience with you as your unconditional support for supreme Poland is pretty annoying.

We are here to have fun together, executing opponents is not fun as nobody likes to play battle when he knows he has no chances to win.Alliance should be acceptable against stronger opponent but not as execution tool to score better in the game.

You made game pretty predictable and dull with your 39 round peace.You shared recources and save your back against each other which gave both of you a lot of advantage as you could move troops to some other areas and not worry about sudden attack while for example Denmark had to fight on two very distant fronts and I had to fight on 3 distant areas.

#719: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:13 pm
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Poland up

Denmark prepares for many big battles on the same day, can it be done, can the danish generals lead there armies to victory!

#720: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 1:15 pm
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Stop whining Gothic, I (Poland) did not attack Denmark as I did not attack The HRE or you Novgorod. All were the aggressor against me, and just for the record the reason Lithuania has gone to war with Denmark was not any of my doing but Soulfly's....he has blockaded a port of Saspi's and has a huge stack of units on ships nearby ultimately leaving him NO choice other than to declare war on Denmark.

Up until this point mine and Soulfly's war was with each other only, as Saspi had stayed neutral. It was only maybe 5 - 10 turns ago you were having a go at Denmark with the same tone. Denmark changed its game plan due to this may have cost him the game.

Diplomacy just as war is a huge part of the game Gothic, I suggest the next time you play hotseat you learn it!!!1

#721: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:28 pm
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— Gothic wrote
Poland gave you land again, didn't he? Your land graph is spiking despite not grabbing new territory in the battle... Which is pretty unacceptable.

Actually I gave him 4-5 regions for 2 regions of his, or something like that. Im clearing borders with him. Theres nothing unacceptable with that. Fair and just treaty, as always, between me and Poland.

Denmark stands 0% chances and it's just execution.I suppose Denmark lost patience with you as your unconditional support for supreme Poland is pretty annoying.

Denmark hardly made an obvious or clear attempt to reach Lithuania. I on the other hand did some cautious attempt approaches. Denmark always kept their distance from Lithuania, they only made a small approach once the war had already started for some turns i believe. Its so funny how back some turns it was preached that Denmark was unbeatable, and now you say they have 0 chances of winning, things change Gothic, your predictions have always come about wrong because your are so narrow minded. But you can be narrow minded with your own chances of success, Ill make sure they are the worst. You know? In general all this talk of yours are lies to shake the game's diplomacy a little bit, and maybe it worked with other players but it wont work with me and Poland. We know your game Gothic.

We are here to have fun together, executing opponents is not fun as nobody likes to play battle when he knows he has no chances to win.Alliance should be acceptable against stronger opponent but not as execution tool to score better in the game.

So its only fun to play if you are winning? And if you are losing you become a sore loser that keeps complaining about how unfair the game is rather than being a man and accepting you are losing so that you can later actually start doing something about losing and change your tactics to try and win. But once again, your are too narrowminded to actually try different tactics or even think that you have chances of winning.

There has been no such thing as execution. This hotseat had like 5-6 players, a 2 player alliance is far from being an execution alliance while other alliances could have been done. And as far as my alliance is concerned we never bullied anyone, we were always attacked by lone players and we responded. Its not our fault that the loners didnt thought of an alliance before attacking us. Im sorry by saying this about Soulfly, but I think it was a big mistake of him to attack both me and Poland. He got himself in a 2vs1 war without having to and I believe it was Gothic rubbish talk who provoked that. Soulfly, the game could have been more balanced had you not attacked Lithuania and let Gothic die (which he had it coming for his actions).

You made game pretty predictable and dull with your 39 round peace.You shared recources and save your back against each other which gave both of you a lot of advantage as you could move troops to some other areas and not worry about sudden attack while for example Denmark had to fight on two very distant fronts and I had to fight on 3 distant areas.

We hardly shared any resources, weve only had maybe 3 diplomatic exchanges in the whole game. Haha, you think Im not worried about Poland attacking me? Thats what is hunting my dreams right now!!! You have no idea how thin the rope that holds our alliance is right now. But thanks to Soulfly attacking me that rope has widened, but the danger is still there... And I know that Poland is getting bigger and bigger, and I know i probably shouldnt say this but im not afraid to, Poland kind of forced me into accepting 4 regions for 2 regions since they are so powerful. But I stayed quiet so that there is no friction between our nations. You have 0 idea of diplomacy Gothic, there are so many thing I cant talk about but that are there. Its not as simple as, I made a permanent deal with Poland. Soullfly had a permanent deal with HRE and in the end it didnt mattered! Deals can be broken, both me and Poland want to win so we wont think of honour if given the chance to win.... And as Ares says, learn diplomacy Gothic.

About fighting distant areas, both me and Poland have had to literally cross armies from east to west or backwards over and over again, I even had Vaisvilkas cross 2 countries all over to HRE while I had you on my eastern-south border threatening and the teutons on north! You think you are the only one? Ha! You are on the corner of the map, you only have to worry about south and west... I am surrounded everywhere by other people!

#722: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 3:32 pm
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— Ares0 wrote
Stop whining Gothic, I (Poland) did not attack Denmark as I did not attack The HRE or you Novgorod. All were the aggressor against me, and just for the record the reason Lithuania has gone to war with Denmark was not any of my doing but Soulfly's....he has blockaded a port of Saspi's and has a huge stack of units on ships nearby ultimately leaving him NO choice other than to declare war on Denmark.

Up until this point mine and Soulfly's war was with each other only, as Saspi had stayed neutral. It was only maybe 5 - 10 turns ago you were having a go at Denmark with the same tone. Denmark changed its game plan due to this may have cost him the game.

Diplomacy just as war is a huge part of the game Gothic, I suggest the next time you play hotseat you learn it!!!1

Aye, aye.

#723: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:34 am
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Lith Up!!

#724: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:40 pm
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#725: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:44 pm
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game over...

#726: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:14 pm
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So is it over or what?

#727: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:49 am
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Looks like it to me saspi, looks like Gothic and Soul have threw the towel in..

#728: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:00 am
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am waiting on gothic, what i ment is its deff game over for gothic, i stand no chance but ill do my turns like always. you guys better prepare for war, very soon it has to be lith vrs poland

#729: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Gothic,

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:11 pm
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Guys you need to set me to AI. I got terrible cold and was in bed for pretty long feeling lousy so gaming was not on my mind and now I feel better (still ill though Sad

but i'm on the way now and I forgot to take my DVD from home and im not coming back anytime soon.

Sorry about that Sad

I hoped I will be able continue to play but I must say I would play or not there was not much point in current geostrategic situation, maybe without Novgorod game will become more interesting as there is only 3 of you.

Good luck !

#730: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:05 pm
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Fair enough Gothic, been a good game with you even if you have moaned like a bitch all the way through it. Maybe you can make the next hotseat!!! Laughing

#731: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:17 pm
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now saspi is fighting the ai he will take those regions with ease Sad

denmark will be next to fall lol, should be a interesting war between you 2

poland up

#732: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:26 am
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#733: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 6:49 pm
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#734: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:14 pm
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no doubt ares will counter this and crush me lol, no long till denmark is gone

denmark calls on lithuania to end peace with poland!

the defeated army withdrawn to ship and ship was sunk

#735: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:43 pm
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Good Gracious .... My fine Army Gone!!!!!

#736: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:05 pm
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I forgot to take screenshot of pre-battle. It was just Novgorod siegeing a fort and I broke the siege. The 11 were inside the fort.

The fact that the rebel army that was recently destroyed had polish men in it wasnt ignored by Lithuania.
We are now worried of the possibility of Polish armies infiltrated in our territory.

As a result of these recent events, including the death of the mad novgorod leader, Lithuania has decided to take the following measures:
-A ceasefire and trade agreement will take place this year with Denmark as a defensive measure in case a Polish army is found hidden near or inside Lithuania.
-The deployment of Lithuanian assassins throught our territory to prevent the damage of any Lithuanian building. Were any buildings damaged, any nation that has an assassin close will be held responsible, so we suggest every nation removes their assassins from our territory.
-The search for hidden armies in our territory will begin and will last for an indefinite period of time. Were any found, from whichever nation, war will be declared immediately.
-Lithuania retires from the Free Nations Coalition, but will stay loyal to any previous agreements there were with the member nations.

Thats all. Lithuania now wishes to rebuild its economy after non-stop wars. We hope that Poland and Denmark wont forget the times we fought side by side against Lithuania's enemies.

#737: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:09 pm
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well played ares Wink

#738: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:36 pm
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In reply to your recent measures Saspi I will remove all assassins from your territory that were en-route to Danish cities. Any Lithuanian Spy's or assassins on Polish lands should also be withdrawn back to its own territory.

I can accept a cease-fire but to open up trade with Denmark after HE was the agressor against both of us only helps my Enemy...

I respect your decision either way!!!!Last edited by Ares0 on Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:47 pm; edited 1 time in total

#739: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:38 pm
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A ceasefire also helps your enemy ares.

#740: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:00 pm
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poland up

#741: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:46 pm
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#742: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:39 pm
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#743: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:46 pm
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Poland up

#744: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:43 pm
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cmon ares end my misery..

#745: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 11:31 am
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#746: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:21 pm
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After what seemed to be endless wars, peace finally reigns in Lithuania.

#747: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 9:01 pm
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poland up

#748: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:27 pm
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#749: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:59 am
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First year of peace... Ahhh the fresh air!

#750: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:35 pm
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poland up, denmark set to AI

#751: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:29 pm
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Sorry to see you leave Soul....until the next HS... Wink

#752: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 6:30 pm
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Lith Up

#753: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:41 pm
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, Fhhuuuuuu!!!

#754: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:36 am
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I'll try my best to get turn done today but i've just finished nights and i'm back in at 4 today... Crying or Very sad

#755: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:09 pm
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No hurry at all.

#756: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:10 am
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Lith up!! Got one battle vrs Denmark, will post screens in morning.

#757: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:53 am
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Damn stats wouldnt show right!

#758: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:17 am
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What you mean Saspi??

#759: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:44 am
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Screens From last Turn. Will do new turn today...

#760: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 12:21 pm
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#761: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 4:01 pm
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Its just that last turn, whenever I tried to look at stats it would only show those up to turn 38 or something rather than turn 47. But on this turn I was able to get the stats right.

#762: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:30 pm
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#763: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:21 pm
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Some swift conquest you got there Ares.

#764: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:56 pm
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Its not that hard to do against the AI!!!!

#765: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:30 am
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#766: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 3:56 pm
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:O An army near Palanga.

#767: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:10 pm
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All my armies are stationed around Polish Cities. You must have scouted deep into Polish Territory!! In work will do turn when I finish.o_O:-D

#768: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:59 pm
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I actually tracked that full stack army some turns ago. Turn before this one it was in range to protect your city but not to siege Palanga, but now on the most recent turn you moved so that it is in range of Palanga. I have moved my armies to react in case you attempt to take Palanga.

#769: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:25 am
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Any idea why my my turn has been downloaded twice before i have even downloaded it??

#770: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:40 am
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not me Razz

#771: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:30 am
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Full stack found in Polish boarders near Kiev ... Remove them back to Lithuanian Soil!!!

#772: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:19 pm
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Dont worry about that stack, they are now on Lithuanian Soil....
Lithuania Declares War on Poland!
Deals? Nothing but scraps of paper! Gilitine has now visited Polish land, and she plans a long stay...

#773: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:54 pm
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the big war begins Very Happy

good luck lads, both done well

#774: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:22 am
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Cheers Soul!!

#775: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:39 am
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— Ares0 wrote
Any idea why my my turn has been downloaded twice before i have even downloaded it??

wasnt me, i could probaly check logs

#776: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:34 am
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No its ok mate, turn done now. No harm done.

#777: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:43 pm
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#778: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:38 pm
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#779: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Saspi,

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:30 pm
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I give up, Ares wins. Congrats!

With reloading turns allowed I would need to invest too much time to stand a chance of winning, and not only i dont have time but Im fed up with reloading, its no fun for me. Please remove me from the Crusades Campaign as well. Good win though Ares.

#780: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Soulfly, Location: Edinburgh,Scotland

Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:07 pm
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Well done Ares, at one point you looked finished. Have done well to come back and win.

#781: Re: MTW2 Teutonic Hotseat Campain Author: Ares0, Location: Widnes, England

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:20 pm
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Thanks Soul, but bit of a anti-climax in the end. Well played tho everyone who took part..

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